X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

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  • SM-Piyes90
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 120
    • Morocco

    #1

    X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

    I have recently got my xbox 360 power supply blinking red and no output .

    I opened it up and checked the pwm ic vcc pin , and i got no voltage on it .
    So checked the startup circuit , found a bad resistor , changed it and the unit is still blinking red .

    any one familiar with this issue ?

    Model is HP-AW175EF3P btw
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30937
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

    does the standby supply work?

    btw, those psu's overheat over time because of dust in them.
    whenever you get one - hold a vac cleaner against the vent holes at one end for a min
    most people dont know they have a fan in them.

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    • SM-Piyes90
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 120
      • Morocco

      #3
      Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

      Actually before that happens it was a constant orange light with 5 vdc at the 1st output and no 12 v at the 2nd output , and i was able to see the console's 3 RLOD .

      But now after removing and putting back some optoisolators ( for tests) , i get that blinking .

      I guess the blinking means that the standby supply is working .

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      • kc8adu
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #4
        Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

        iirc the light wont blink if 5v stby is dead.
        did you jump red and blue?
        that fires up the main +12.
        most of the consoles are in rough shape now and not worth fixing so i use these power supplies to run radio gear.
        edit.
        now that we know it worked till you messed with it go double check your work.solder shorts reversed/wrong opto,ect.
        Last edited by kc8adu; 06-15-2014, 08:39 PM. Reason: posted together

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        • SM-Piyes90
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 120
          • Morocco

          #5
          Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

          Originally posted by kc8adu
          iirc the light wont blink if 5v stby is dead.
          did you jump red and blue?
          that fires up the main +12.
          most of the consoles are in rough shape now and not worth fixing so i use these power supplies to run radio gear.
          edit.
          now that we know it worked till you messed with it go double check your work.solder shorts reversed/wrong opto,ect.
          Yes , that's my thoughts too .

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          • SM-Piyes90
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 120
            • Morocco

            #6
            Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

            Okey am back to my original situation with a constant orange light after resoldering an optoisolator pin, but still no voltage at the PWM ic vcc pin , i have to mention that i have found a 150 ohm resistor that was giving 700 ohms , but things are the same even after the replacements .

            Any thoughts on this dear members ?
            Last edited by SM-Piyes90; 06-16-2014, 04:57 PM.

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30937
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

              got foto's and the pwm part number.

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              • SM-Piyes90
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 120
                • Morocco

                #8
                Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                Originally posted by stj
                got foto's and the pwm part number.
                Its S2153D , i will upload pictures later .

                Thanks in advance stj

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                • SM-Piyes90
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 120
                  • Morocco

                  #9
                  Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                  Hi again and sorry for not putting any pictures yet , i am still waiting to get my camera from a friend .

                  Anyways i have searched a bit on some forums and some say that this xbox psu does not output a 12 volts when its disconnected from the xbox console .
                  And also the 12 v rail is activated when the 5 vsb is shorted with ps-on .

                  Any ideas on this ? is it safe to keep 5 vsb shorted with ps-on and see if the 12 v is given ?
                  Last edited by SM-Piyes90; 06-21-2014, 05:09 PM.

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                  • SM-Piyes90
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 120
                    • Morocco

                    #10
                    Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                    Ironically i have found that the enable pin was broke .

                    PSU is on now .

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                    • Agent24
                      I see dead caps
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4919
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                      Good to hear!
                      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                      -David VanHorn

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                      • momaka
                        master hoarder
                        • May 2008
                        • 12164
                        • Bulgaria

                        #12
                        Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                        Originally posted by SM-Piyes90
                        Any ideas on this ? is it safe to keep 5 vsb shorted with ps-on and see if the 12 v is given ?
                        Yes.
                        Short PS-ON to 5VSB and the power supply should turn on. No need for a resistor (though I always do it with one just in case ).

                        I have one Xbox brick that has a steady red light or no light at all when plugged in the wall. IIRC, these PSUs had either Samxon or Taicon caps in them (or possibly Ltec), so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bad start-up cap in the 5VSB circuit.

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30937
                          • Albion

                          #13
                          Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                          probably full of dust and a stalled fan.

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                          • momaka
                            master hoarder
                            • May 2008
                            • 12164
                            • Bulgaria

                            #14
                            Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                            Originally posted by stj
                            probably full of dust and a stalled fan.
                            Actually no. I got two of them as a set. The one that was packed full of dust was working. This one is clean and not always working. Go figure.

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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30937
                              • Albion

                              #15
                              Re: X-360 PSU ( PWM IC not having vcc voltage )

                              maybe it's not full of dust because it has a bad fan - does the fan have a tacho output that could be used to shut the supply down?

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