PLP-60-48 Single Output LED Power Supply - "chirping" noise

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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30979
    • Albion

    #41
    did you meter the mosfet out of the board?

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    • Agent24
      I see dead caps
      • Oct 2007
      • 4950
      • New Zealand

      #42
      Originally posted by tester001
      Hi CapLeaker,
      Sorry! I've not been very clear. The removed capacitor is showing resistance of 4-5 MOhm and counting. Unable to get capacitance reading..
      Resistance of a ceramic cap should be infinite, even in the meg-ohms is not normal. Also not normal if you get no capacitance reading.

      Probably it was shorted before but the heating/movement of desoldering it changed things internally.
      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
      -David VanHorn

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      • tester001
        Tony
        • Dec 2023
        • 24
        • UK

        #43
        Originally posted by stj
        did you meter the mosfet out of the board?
        Not yet, as I couldn't identify its model and therefore wasn't sure how to test!

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        • tester001
          Tony
          • Dec 2023
          • 24
          • UK

          #44
          Originally posted by Agent24
          Probably it was shorted before but the heating/movement of desoldering it changed things internally.
          So it's not abnormal for the whole circuit (with mosfet and cap removed) to show at its input (the prongs) the resistance I specified (1.795 kOhm and if I switch the probes around it - 34 kOhm)?

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          • sam_sam_sam
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2011
            • 6033
            • USA

            #45
            Originally posted by tester001

            So it's not abnormal for the whole circuit (with mosfet and cap removed) to show at its input (the prongs) the resistance I specified (1.795 kOhm and if I switch the probes around it - 34 kOhm)?
            Might be alright with these readings but with out a working board you will not be sure of it unless you get this board working correctly again then you will know what the actual readings should be

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30979
              • Albion

              #46
              Originally posted by tester001

              Not yet, as I couldn't identify its model and therefore wasn't sure how to test!
              the tab is a connection, the first 3 pins are the second connection, the 4th pin is the gate.
              check resistance between them all - specially from the tab

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              • CapLeaker
                Leaking Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 8118
                • Canada

                #47
                I am not getting something... first, you had a short on the 2 prongs. You took the Mosfet off, made no diff. Then you took that SMD cap right above the 2 prongs off, now the short is gone on the prongs but the SMD cap isn't shorted? Doesn't make any sense to me.

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                • Agent24
                  I see dead caps
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4950
                  • New Zealand

                  #48
                  Originally posted by CapLeaker
                  I am not getting something... first, you had a short on the 2 prongs. You took the Mosfet off, made no diff. Then you took that SMD cap right above the 2 prongs off, now the short is gone on the prongs but the SMD cap isn't shorted? Doesn't make any sense to me.
                  SMD ceramics are rather delicate, they can be damaged if you solder them wrong and thermally or physically shock them, it's possible to disturb the short internally or crack the capacitor by desoldering it, especially if done with a soldering iron rather than hot air. Then the short would appear to vanish.

                  I've also had disappearing short circuits on tactile buttons, once the part is desoldered. My guess would be tin whiskers internally on the switch contacts that melted, or similar.
                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                  -David VanHorn

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30979
                    • Albion

                    #49
                    tactile switches are usually silver plated, maybe the black tarnish that builds on them is conductive.

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                    • CapLeaker
                      Leaking Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 8118
                      • Canada

                      #50
                      Nah… that black stuff makes contacts worse, not better. At work I have sometimes trouble with switches because they use cleaner on them.

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