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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #41
    Re: Infocus power supply isssue

    Components do fail, and also the standby power supply is always running the minute you apply the power to the unit even the unit is not switched on (in STBY mode), so it is running 24/7, the circuit will face any spikes and surges in the power line 24/7.
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    • subarub4
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 77
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Infocus power supply isssue

      Originally posted by budm
      Components do fail, and also the standby power supply is always running the minute you apply the power to the unit even the unit is not switched on (in STBY mode), so it is running 24/7, the circuit will face any spikes and surges in the power line 24/7.
      Well that makes sense, I plan on putting this on a 625 VA UPS once I get everything completed.

      I assume the heatsink will run cooler on the MR4010 when it's replaced? I did not see any specs other then it says max output is 70W

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Infocus power supply isssue

        At full load, it will get quite warm. To extend the life, I would completely kill the power to the unit. if you are going to use UPS, make sure it is pure sine wave not step sine wave which has high harmonics, also has AVR (Automatic Voltage regulator), Extreme voltage shutdown circuits, surge and spike suppressor. The UPS should have at least 20% higher capacity than the load requires.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • subarub4
          Senior Member
          • May 2013
          • 77
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Infocus power supply isssue

          Originally posted by budm
          At full load, it will get quite warm. To extend the life, I would completely kill the power to the unit. if you are going to use UPS, make sure it is pure sine wave not step sine wave which has high harmonics, also has AVR (Automatic Voltage regulator), Extreme voltage shutdown circuits, surge and spike suppressor. The UPS should have at least 20% higher capacity than the load requires.
          Well on the unit it lists lists it at 2.6A so that's around what 312-315W?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Infocus power supply isssue

            You have to use VA rating since the load (the projector) is not linear load, so 2.6A x 120V = 312VA, and you will be using 625VA, then you are OK.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • subarub4
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 77
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Infocus power supply isssue

              Originally posted by budm
              You have to use VA rating since the load (the projector) is not linear load, so 2.6A x 120V = 312VA, and you will be using 625VA, then you are OK.
              Ah got it!

              I will just get a 1000VA model since I rather have a little backup.. I've seen times were the power will come on for a few seconds then back off again.

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              • retiredcaps
                Badcaps Legend
                • Apr 2010
                • 9271

                #47
                Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                Coincidence?

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                • subarub4
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 77
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                  Originally posted by retiredcaps

                  No, this site has been pretty helpful Out of the 4-5 sites I posted my question at only this and that site really had info on SMPS.
                  Plus should anyone else search on google they can find helpful info, since all the power supplies before me were all for older Infocus projectors which did not have a power supply as mine.
                  Last edited by subarub4; 05-16-2013, 01:00 AM.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                    By the way, you should also replace the set of caps since the projector runs pretty hot.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • subarub4
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 77
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                      Originally posted by budm
                      By the way, you should also replace the set of caps since the projector runs pretty hot.
                      Yep I have the following Panasonic caps coming from Digikey should be here by Saturday I hope

                      CAP ALUM 47UF 25V 20% RADIAL
                      CAP ALUM 10UF 50V 20% RADIAL
                      CAP ALUM 47UF 35V 20% RADIAL
                      CAP ALUM 22UF 50V 20% RADIAL
                      CAP ALUM 1000UF 25V 20% RADIAL (2)
                      CAP ALUM 150UF 450V 20% SNAP

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                      • subarub4
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 77
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                        Btw I have a oscilloscope

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                        • subarub4
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 77
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                          Still waiting on those caps :-/

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                          • subarub4
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 77
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                            Speaking of caps for the 150 Uf 450v cap should I pick a low ESR one?

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                            • Khron
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1350
                              • Finland

                              #54
                              Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                              I don't think they make any "low ESR" high-voltage series Just pick the one with the best balance of ripple current rating vs. price (in case price is an issue; if not, go for the highest ripple, in a case size that fits your application )
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                              • subarub4
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 77
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                                Yeah that's what I did

                                I ended up ordering the same batch of caps but this time from Mouser so I'm going to have two sets.. if the Mouser order ever comes then good.. if not they are lost someplace :-/ if they end up coming later then I will have some caps I can get rid of.

                                It would be a shame if my MR4010 from China beat out Digikey from MN..

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                                • subarub4
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2013
                                  • 77
                                  • USA

                                  #56
                                  Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                                  Changed the caps today no change.. so still waiting on the MR4010 to arrive.

                                  As you can see those 2 1000 uF 25V caps I ended up ordering the wrong diameter kind.



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                                  • subarub4
                                    Senior Member
                                    • May 2013
                                    • 77
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: Infocus power supply isssue

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                                    • subarub4
                                      Senior Member
                                      • May 2013
                                      • 77
                                      • USA

                                      #58
                                      Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                                      I can say right now the new chip has no resistance between the drain and source like the current one right now.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #59
                                        Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                                        Are those two caps PANASONIC EB series?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • subarub4
                                          Senior Member
                                          • May 2013
                                          • 77
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: Infocus power supply isssue

                                          Originally posted by budm
                                          Are those two caps PANASONIC EB series?
                                          Yes

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