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  • c_hegge
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2009
    • 5219
    • Australia

    #21
    Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

    Look at the shot above that one. 692uF on a 1000uF Cap

    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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    • mockingbird
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 5488
      • -

      #22
      Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

      Look at the shot above that one. 692uF on a 1000uF Cap
      According to a post int he following thread, it can be calibrated.
      http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/equip...ay-gadget.html



      Here's another one from a different seller... So am I correct in thinking the ESR resolution is good up to 0.010 Ohms (The correct ESR for that 10V 1000uF Rubycon MCZ should be 0.011 Ohms). If so, then this device is all you need for testing caps and it only cost $20.

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      • TELVM
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2012
        • 547
        • Spain

        #23
        Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

        A better view of the gadget's PCB, from another ebay entry:

        Last edited by TELVM; 12-30-2012, 05:26 AM.

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        • Tube_Dude
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 51

          #24
          Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

          Originally posted by TELVM
          Man that capacitance/ESR gadget is exactly what I'm looking for ! Where can I get one of these? How much does it cost?
          You can buy it directly from PEAK, like I have done. They ship very fast.

          And yes, I love my ESR 60 analyser...

          http://www.peakelec.co.uk/acatalog/jz_esr60.html
          Last edited by Tube_Dude; 12-30-2012, 08:18 AM.

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          • ben7
            Capaholic
            • Jan 2011
            • 4059
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

            Can you please stop hijacking P4's thread?
            Muh-soggy-knee

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            • TELVM
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2012
              • 547
              • Spain

              #26
              Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

              Ouch, my apologies.

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              • popeye
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 155

                #27
                Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                Originally posted by Pentium4
                Yeah! Here is the before and after, and a pic of a typical Chinese cap lying about the specs! I think maybe some of the little caps on the 5VSB are bad because this thing has no signs of life. I will work on it more on the 31st and hopefully get it going
                Hi P4

                the cap that is in it is only rated at 85 deg so I would up grade to 105 deg the peak esr 70 is showing that the cap is within spec (ie 20%+or-)

                I would replace it anyway where there any other components blown it the primary side of this PSU? if so you will need to replace them as well then you need to check the secondary side.

                Good luck with your project.

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                • Pentium4
                  CapXon Be Gone
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3741
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                  Originally posted by dmill89
                  Not sure what your plans for that PSU are Pentium4, but it appears to be very similar (although slightly cheaper judging from the heatsinks) to this one I rebuilt a while back if you want some ideas.
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...hlight=gutless
                  Hey, thank you very much for the link, i wish mine had heat sinks like yours
                  link directly to the rebuild post:https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...93&postcount=8
                  Originally posted by ben7
                  Can you please stop hijacking P4's thread?
                  Haha, thanks
                  Originally posted by popeye
                  Hi P4

                  the cap that is in it is only rated at 85 deg so I would up grade to 105 deg the peak esr 70 is showing that the cap is within spec (ie 20%+or-)

                  I would replace it anyway where there any other components blown it the primary side of this PSU? if so you will need to replace them as well then you need to check the secondary side.

                  Good luck with your project.
                  Yeah, I will for sure replace all the caps in this thing! I don't trust any of the ones that came in it I will keep this thread updated

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                  • Pentium4
                    CapXon Be Gone
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3741
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                    I had suspicions about this diode being shorted so I took it out and it measured 1.3Ω both ways and it diode check mode it reads 0 both ways, is it bad? It's an SB560 diode. And I have an SB540, would that be a suitable replacement?
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                    Last edited by Pentium4; 04-24-2013, 02:01 PM.

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                    • ben7
                      Capaholic
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 4059
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                      Originally posted by Pentium4
                      I had suspicions about this diode being shorted so I took it out and it measured 1.3Ω both ways, is it bad? It's an SB560 diode
                      Yep, it indeed is bad.
                      Muh-soggy-knee

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                      • Khron
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1350
                        • Finland

                        #31
                        Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                        40V vs 60V reverse voltage rating shouldn't be much of a problem, in this case. Judging by the location next to the 5Vsb transformer, i'd say it's a safe bet this is the 5Vsb rectifier
                        Khron's Cave - Electronics - Audio - Teardowns - Mods - Repairs - Projects - Music - Rants - Shenanigans

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                        • Pentium4
                          CapXon Be Gone
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3741
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                          Thanks for the replies Really? Because it got 5VSB but wouldn't power up. I will see how it goes! The SB540 is mounted to a little heatsink that should help

                          Edit: Woohoo it powers up now! Now I can continue modifying it in confidence
                          Last edited by Pentium4; 04-24-2013, 02:29 PM.

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                          • ben7
                            Capaholic
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 4059
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                            Originally posted by Pentium4
                            Thanks for the replies Really? Because it got 5VSB but wouldn't power up. I will see how it goes! The SB540 is mounted to a little heatsink that should help

                            Edit: Woohoo it powers up now! Now I can continue modifying it in confidence
                            Um, wtf. Maybe it was somehow being rectified some way, but not well.
                            Muh-soggy-knee

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                            • Pentium4
                              CapXon Be Gone
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3741
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                              Or just worked with a very low load? I hope Khron is right in the fact that the reverse voltage is a little lower but shouldn't affect it. After recapping it I plan on replacing the TOBA MUR1620CT with two MBR20100CT's in parallel to reduce some of the heat on that little heatsink...
                              Last edited by Pentium4; 04-24-2013, 03:29 PM.

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                              • Pentium4
                                CapXon Be Gone
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 3741
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                                Was pretty frustrated, I went to put those MBR20100CT's in the PSU, even had them bolted to the heatsink and the legs were too short on them So I left the original one....

                                Here is the final picture with the new diode, a Panaflo DC Brushless fan, the new caps (Except the -12V and -5V) and I also bent the fins on the heatsinks outwards, I think they will cool better this way. Now hopefully this thing can last in a computer I only trust it up to 200W for long periods of time
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                                • c_hegge
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 5219
                                  • Australia

                                  #36
                                  Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                                  Not bad. I always bend those fins outwards too. The stock configuration is hopeless for getting airflow between the two rows of fins.
                                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                  No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                                  Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

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                                  • Pentium4
                                    CapXon Be Gone
                                    • Sep 2011
                                    • 3741
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                                    Originally posted by c_hegge
                                    Not bad. I always bend those fins outwards too. The stock configuration is hopeless for getting airflow between the two rows of fins.
                                    Thanks, I'm glad you approve! I don't understand why they don't do that from the factory

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                                    • cheapie
                                      null
                                      • Jul 2010
                                      • 849
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                                      Originally posted by Pentium4
                                      Thanks, I'm glad you approve! I don't understand why they don't do that from the factory
                                      Because it adds about a tenth of a cent worth of wear to the machine! Think about it: if they make 10,000 units, that's an entire TEN DOLLARS that they save!

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                                      • mariushm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • May 2011
                                        • 3799

                                        #39
                                        Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                                        They're easier to ship and package that way, take less space.
                                        Easier to handle in the factory.
                                        Can be reused in other designs where there are tall parts near the heatsinks

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                                        • Pentium4
                                          CapXon Be Gone
                                          • Sep 2011
                                          • 3741
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Replacing 4 diodes with a bridge

                                          You guys have good points, and they probably don't care either way

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