Suing Antec

**ratdude747** · 02-03-2012, 05:47 PM

Re: Suing Antec

Originally posted by PCBONEZ

At the time they were using Fuhjyyu - absolutely.
It's a little too late now.
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The idea of avoiding liability by establishing a corporation just pisses me off.
They begin to think "even if we knowingly fuck people over they can't touch us personally".
Stock holders should share the $$$ of liability and CEO's should go to jail.
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I guarantee the quality of just about everything would improve.
And I think we'd see fewer mine explosions, ship wrecks, and a lot less oil in the ocean....
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Agreed 100%.

**Agent24** · 02-03-2012, 05:56 PM

Re: Suing Antec

Originally posted by 370forlife

The thing is, antec hasn't used power supplies with Fuhjyyu caps in years.

I'm pretty sure my friend's Antec Basiq has Fuhjyyu capacitors. Online reviews show some have CapXon.

**everell** · 02-03-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by 370forlife

Also keep in mind a lot of other manufacturers used Fuhjyyu.

Interesting that Bestec has an even worse reputation.......but I have never seen a Fuhjyyu capacitor in a Bestec........even the Bestec ATX-250 12E.

So Antec with Fuhjyyu capacitors is better???

**dmill89** · 02-03-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Agent24

I'm pretty sure my friend's Antec Basiq has Fuhjyyu capacitors. Online reviews show some have CapXon.

If it's a really old one it's possible. The early Basiq models were made by FSP which often uses CapXon capacitors in lower end models and also occasionally used Fuhjyyus in low-end models as well. However unlike the CWT built units these early FSP built Basiqs weren't designed to be quiet and thus had much higher RPM fans that don't cook the caps like the old CWT SP and TP series did so even low quality caps can last a while. The newer Basiq series PSUs are built by Delta and use mostly use Ltec which while not the best, are generally good enough for use in PSUs. Most of Antec's higher end offerings are Delta or SeaSonic and use Japanese caps.

**dmill89** · 02-03-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by everell

Interesting that Bestec has an even worse reputation.......but I have never seen a Fuhjyyu capacitor in a Bestec........even the Bestec ATX-250 12E.

So Antec with Fuhjyyu capacitors is better???

I think the big issue with Bestec was their propensity to fry motherboards. While some of the Antec Smart Power's used a 2 transistor 5VSB rail like the Bestec ATX-250 12E on the Antec the "killer cap" is located between the heat sinks right in the airflow path while the caps on the secondary are buried in the wire loom and out of the airflow path causing the output caps on the secondary to fail first. This will generally either give lots of symptoms (buzzing, unstable system, etc.), or trip the protection circuitry leading to much less fried motherboards than the Bestec, there is still the occasional instance of a fried motherboard from and Antec SP but these are mostly people who ignored the symptoms of a failing PSU or units with a manufacturing defect. On the Bestecs the 5VSB "killer cap" is often the first to fail shooting excessively high voltage (often 12v+) down the 5VSB rail and frying the chipset. The CWT Antecs with Fuhjyyu caps may not be much if any more reliable as PSUs than Bestecs but they haven't cooked as many motherboards.

**c_hegge** · 02-03-2012, 09:23 PM

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Antecs did have 100% failure rates and they did often kill motherboards, and yes, they should have been sued back then for it. Personally, I still don't buy antec. Not because I fear the caps, but because I hate them as a company. If they were really that desparate for that extra 5oc/unit, they can add 50c to the price and I'll gladly pay it. It also annoys me how they tried to downplay it to make it seem like it was just a bad batch. IMO, they should have been recalled.

**PCBONEZ** · 02-04-2012, 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by dmill89

The CWT Antecs with Fuhjyyu caps may not be much if any more reliable as PSUs than Bestecs but they haven't cooked as many motherboards.

OH BS.
The Antecs not only fried motherboards they caused house fires.
It's pretty old but there used to be thread with links to the stories.
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I personally found out about the Antec problems by frying a motherboard.
The damned Antec [a TP2-550] was new out of the box and the Fuhjyyu WERE ALREADY BLOATED.
I posted photos in here somewhere. Also very old now.
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**Shocker** · 02-04-2012, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by PCBONEZ

OH BS.
The Antecs not only fried motherboards they caused house fires.
It's pretty old but there used to be thread with links to the stories.
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I personally found out about the Antec problems by frying a motherboard.
The damned Antec [a TP2-550] was new out of the box and the Fuhjyyu WERE ALREADY BLOATED.
I posted photos in here somewhere. Also very old now.
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I remember it

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3246

**Agent24** · 02-04-2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by PCBONEZ

The damned Antec [a TP2-550] was new out of the box and the Fuhjyyu WERE ALREADY BLOATED.

What do you expect? This is Fuhjyyu you're talking about...

**PCBONEZ** · 02-04-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by Agent24

What do you expect? This is Fuhjyyu you're talking about...

I bought the POS in '05 or '06 when I was still learning about caps.
There weren't any gripes about TP2's here (or anywhere) yet.
I hadn't run into Fuhjyyu yet either.
Then it sat on the shelf as a spare for a year or more before I used it.
I should have checked the forum again just before I tried it.
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I was pissed because I -did- research it before I bought it and there weren't any gripes yet.
It was still too new.
By the time I used it there were gripes but I didn't think to check again.
AND it fried a really good board.
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**Shocker** · 02-14-2012, 01:42 AM

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Yeah, Antec was a pimp back in the day.

Perhaps their designers drank too much

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Has anyone ever

all over an Antec PSU???

Oh, wait a minute, they make Ower Upply Units.

**c_hegge** · 02-14-2012, 03:41 AM

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Originally posted by Shocker

they make Ower Upply Units.

You mean, like this?

**Shocker** · 02-14-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by c_hegge

You mean, like this?

Yes

In any case, what was Antec drinking???

**Shocker** · 02-14-2012, 06:49 PM

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What's an Ower Upply, anyway???

**c_hegge** · 02-14-2012, 06:57 PM

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It's a power supply that only lasts for an ower (hour)

**Newbie2** · 02-14-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by c_hegge

You mean, like this?

An actual United Chemicon cap coming stock in a gutless wonder?!

At least HongKongFlyApart Company decided to invest a few extra cents into that power supply...

**Shocker** · 02-14-2012, 07:27 PM

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c_hegge: Gonna vote???

**c_hegge** · 02-14-2012, 08:09 PM

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Yup. I said no, because it's a bit late now

**Shocker** · 02-14-2012, 08:25 PM

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Guess I wrote the wrong words when starting. I should have wrote should Antec HAVE been sued.

**c_hegge** · 02-14-2012, 10:11 PM

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well, in that case, yes but I can't change my vote

Suing Antec

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