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  • JohnSwe
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    • Jul 2015
    • 10
    • Sweden

    #1

    Acer 5742G dead after stress test

    Looking for advice..

    Acer Aspire 5742G started to power-off due to overheating.
    Now it wont start at all, external power or batt.
    It shows no lights when connecting power (no sign of battery charging).

    I guess something has fried around the power-circuit...

    The last thing I was doing was a small stress-test...

    (The external power is working with another Acer)

    Mb is "NEW 71 LA-5893P"

    Someone that can lead me on the way trying to find whats got fried?
  • dellxps15
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    • Feb 2014
    • 1588
    • italy

    #2
    Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

    try flash back ec bios.

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    • JohnSwe
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      • Jul 2015
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      #3
      Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

      How? It's stone dead...

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
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        • Jul 2010
        • 6031
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        #4
        Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

        You need to take the laptop apart and use a BIOS programmer to flash it.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
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        • RJARRRPCGP
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          #5
          Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

          Sounds like a faulty VRM or CPU.
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          • Th3_uN1Qu3
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            #6
            Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

            Don't think so. A short on the CPU VRM would still have the board light up the battery charging LED.
            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
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            • sopik78
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              • Nov 2013
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              #7
              Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

              Agree with Unique, do flash bios and ec first, than we'll see. I had three these laptops with the same problem and flashing helped.
              Last edited by sopik78; 07-20-2015, 04:19 AM.

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              • JohnSwe
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                • Jul 2015
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                #8
                Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                Ok sounds doable...

                So I remove the bios and reprogram it using an external writer?

                Any tip on a good eeprom(?) writer?
                And where to find downloadable bios'es?

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                • JohnSwe
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                  • Jul 2015
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                  #9
                  Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                  So a faulty BIOS can make the charge-light not come on? Is not the charge circuit a more hw issue..?

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                  • age80
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                    • Jun 2013
                    • 55
                    • Greece

                    #10
                    Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                    Here's the schematic in case it's not a BIOS problem

                    Attached Files

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                    • sopik78
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                      • Nov 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                      Try this dump, it worked well

                      I use EZP2010 external programmer, cheap chinese one and I am fully satisfied
                      Attached Files

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                      • JohnSwe
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                        • Jul 2015
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                        #12
                        Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                        Thanks!

                        Will any on these do for the programming:
                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/251369833299
                        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FAST-...713696363.html
                        (Gonna take some weeks to get them to Sweden..)

                        So I flash both BIOS and EC, right?
                        BIOS = SPI ROM = U18 ?
                        EC = U31 ?
                        (Im gonna need a smaller soldering iron for this job.... Desoldering is PITA?)

                        Please correct me:
                        Content of bios_new71.rar is:
                        KBCA121A.rom = EC
                        NEW70121.fd = BIOS

                        Are there different BIOS dumps for different graphic cards on the mb?
                        Last edited by JohnSwe; 07-21-2015, 04:19 AM.

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                        • sparker1
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                          #13
                          Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                          A heat station is sometimes easier than a soldering iron. Mask off the area with heat resistant tape and de-solder with the heat station Re-solder the same way.

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                          • sopik78
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                            • Nov 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                            Originally posted by JohnSwe
                            Thanks!

                            Please correct me:
                            Content of bios_new71.rar is:
                            KBCA121A.rom = EC
                            NEW70121.fd = BIOS

                            Are there different BIOS dumps for different graphic cards on the mb?
                            Correct.

                            I used these dumps for nvidia model, but should work on ati as well

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                            • Agent24
                              I see dead caps
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4951
                              • New Zealand

                              #15
                              Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                              Originally posted by sparker1
                              A heat station is sometimes easier than a soldering iron. Mask off the area with heat resistant tape and de-solder with the heat station Re-solder the same way.
                              With something like this, hot air is pretty much the only way.
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                              • JohnSwe
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                                • Jul 2015
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                                #16
                                Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                                Thanks again.. I also have the Nvidia so that should work then.

                                Is that CH341A programmer above ok?

                                Can someone confirm that I've got the right chips on the mb, U18 and U31 ?

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                                • Agent24
                                  I see dead caps
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 4951
                                  • New Zealand

                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                                  That CH341A programmer lists MX25L3205 and MX25L1005 as supported, which according to the schematic, your board uses.
                                  You may wish to verify the chip part numbers on your own board too though, but if they are correct, it should work, assuming the software for such a cheap programmer is not full of bugs!

                                  How are you going to connect the ROMs to the programmer though? Unless there is an ICSP header, you probably need a 150 and 200 mil SOP8-DIP adaptor sockets for the programmer. Also some way to remove the chips without destroying the board. It can be done with a soldering iron if you are skilled and careful, but hot air is a much better idea.
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                                  • JohnSwe
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                                    • Jul 2015
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                                    Maybe something like this:

                                    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quali...219537667.html

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                                    • Agent24
                                      I see dead caps
                                      • Oct 2007
                                      • 4951
                                      • New Zealand

                                      #19
                                      Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                                      Yeah that would do it, although if the schematic is correct the main ROM is in a 200mil package so you would need both a 150mil and 200mil socket, one for each ROM.

                                      Personally I'd buy from eBay too, I'm sure there are good sellers on AliExpress but I don't trust it myself...
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                                      • megaraider
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                                        • Jul 2015
                                        • 307
                                        • Portugal

                                        #20
                                        Re: Acer 5742G dead after stress test

                                        While you wait for the programmer try reseting all BIOS settings to default.
                                        Incorrect values (assigned or recorded, e.g. temperature, ...) might have been stored.
                                        To archive this you have to look for a 4 points jumper located very close to the RAM door / socket, labeled "RTCRST" & "SRTCRST".
                                        Short them all together.
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