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  • Tesla
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    • Jul 2011
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    Dell XPS-15 (9520) Mostly Bricked after common BIOS-Firmware upgrade - Full Repair Log

    I have a Dell XPS-15 (9520) with the LA-L402P motherboard. It seems to have bricked itself after a common BIOS-Firmware upgrade. Now, it just shows BIOS screen for a few seconds before turning-itself back Off (and doesn't seem to be fully Posting). I've done these many times before with no problems.

    I was hoping to please have my own-thread to work-through this (hopefully successful) repair as a whole. Apart from the possible need to have a BIOS-dump fixed-up, I have a feeling I'm going to have other questions. This includes using my new XGecu-T76 for the first time (should be here in a few days). I have some experience fixing laptops and computers and I'm a quick learner, but instead of me just fumbling through it ... I was hoping yall could guide me a bit. If there is a tutorial or document that I should read along the way, please just point me to it.

    I would really like to get this Dell XPS-15 (9520) laptop working again. It previously worked fine on BIOS v1.4.0 (where I left it for 3 years). I recently went to flash the BIOS Firmware to next in Dell’s list (getting ready for CA-2023). Success messages and action in UEFI-Environment looked fine for the newly-applied v1.6.0 until it rebooted. Now I just get a non-responsive BIOS screen for a few seconds.
    https://www.dell.com/support/product...laptop/drivers

    It's a fairly high-end config (to me anyway) so it seems like a bit of a travesty to just strip it for a few little parts:
    Intel i7-12700h / 16gb x2 =32gb DDR5 (in Dual-Channel mode) / Nvidia RTX-3050 (GN20-P0) / 512gb Samsung-OEM PM9A1 NVMe SSD / 15.6in UHD+ LCD (500nit)

    Link to PDF Service Manual: None of the CMOS or RTC resets help. I get little-to-no white-led DIAG-Code flashing, and never any Amber-colored flashing what-so-ever.
    https://dl.dell.com/content/manual10...language=en-us

    The LCD-BIST works, but not the M-BIST (as I mentioned, no Amber color flashing, or really any White either). To me, the DIAG-codes don't seem to be working.

    I tried the built-in Dell BIOS Recovery, lots of different ways (but it was un-successful).
    https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/e...uter-or-tablet
    I never get any prompts or words on the screen. F2, F12, and CTRL-ESC keys are non-responsive. The tiny-led (for drive-access) on my Recovery-file flash-drive never lights-up one bit.
    I think the MB not completely Posting anymore is preventing it from initializing.

    Here is a pic of my circa-2022 virgin (never violated or taken apart) XPS-15 (9520). I removed the black-tape in the SSD-2 bay to verify the MB model. The Li-Ion battery is un-plugged to help dissipate the flea-power. The gray piece near there is actually a thermal-pad. It's not attached (it's just laying there). Its purpose seems to be to "sandwiched" and transfer heat from that heat-sink to the laptop's metal back cover. Lots of cardboard, foil, and tape inside. Unfortunately, appears to be the common-nowdays "built like a phone" construction ... with many expensive parts "soldered in".

    XPS-15 (9520) Inside

    My previous mode of operation would be to swap the motherboard, but with everything soldered-in the cost is high and prohibitive. Plus, seeing as it happened so easily, I'm thinking it might decide to Brick itself again as I further upgrade its BIOS-Firmwares closer to finals or over the future years. This laptop has very little hours on it and I had hoped to have it for years to come.

    I found the Board-View and Schematics here on the forum and downloaded them. It's been years, but I'll try to use them when/if required. Anyway, thanks for that (top-notch website forum yall have here). I'm ready to try to take my hobby-repair skills to the next level.
  • Tesla
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    #2
    So, taking into account:
    - How it got Bricked in the first place (um, how it decided to Brick itself)
    - Some "signs of life" but not really fully Posting any more
    - No physical damage
    - None of the published CMOS Resets help
    - BIOS Recovery non-responsive

    Do yall agree that I have exhausted all the "easy fixes" and is now a candidate for a BIOS chip code fix?

    As I understand the procedure, I should now remove the motherboard, find the BIOS chip on the back, clip onto it, and try to get a good dump of the BIOS with my new XGecu-T76?

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    • m1ch43lzm
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      • Mar 2019
      • 2151
      • Peru

      #3
      Looks similar to this case: https://youtu.be/t2TBtKS8bqM?t=908
      It's an XPS 15 9500, but it should be similar procedure
      Make sure to get WSON8 probe, shown in that video, the SOIC8 clip won't work; you have to hold it for however long it takes to read the chip, also lower the SPI clock frequency to 8MHz on the XGecu software otherwise you get read errors/random changed bits due to extra wire length between programmer and chip
      When using this type of probe with pogo pins, read the chip several times and make several backups, compare them with hex editor, should be identical, a slight movement can cause to lose connection and some portions won't be read correctly

      S/T and Win key have to be transferred to new BIOS

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      • Tesla
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        #4
        Originally posted by m1ch43lzm

        1. Looks similar to this case: https://youtu.be/t2TBtKS8bqM?t=908
        It's an XPS 15 9500, but it should be similar procedure

        2. Make sure to get WSON8 probe, shown in that video, the SOIC8 clip won't work; you have to hold it for however long it takes to read the chip,

        3. also lower the SPI clock frequency to 8MHz on the XGecu software otherwise you get read errors/random changed bits due to extra wire length between programmer and chip

        4. When using this type of probe with pogo pins, read the chip several times and make several backups, compare them with hex editor, should be identical, a slight movement can cause to lose connection and some portions won't be read correctly

        5. S/T and Win key have to be transferred to new BIOS
        1. Nice find, thanks.

        2. I ordered one, but it shipped separately. It will be here in a few days.

        3. Acknowledged

        4. Acknowledged

        5. Acknowledged

        It's a Winbond 25R512JVEN . The supplied clip does clip-on and stay. If it was made with a bit more precision, I think it would actually work. Also, it doesn't help that there is a very tiny 5-leg component soldered onto the board very close that the clip's black plastic might be touching. The pictures and actual pinouts in the XgPro are nice (like for this supplied clip and I assume other adapters)

        With it set to W25R512JV , I notice it only wants to read Pins 1,2,5,6,8 (according to the failed pin-detection).

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        • Tesla
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          • Jul 2011
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          #5
          Just killing some time waiting for my QFN8-6X8 Pogo-Clip .

          I loaded Compal HDO51_HAD51 LA-L402P r1.0.cad into Open-Board-View.

          Questions:
          1. Why do I have to "mirror" view to make it look the same as the board on my bench? That insinuates a major physical change of the PCB (not just a different view).

          2. This laptop is fully optioned, yet JDCI1 and JDUDC1 connectors (on top, easy to get to, near the SSD M.2 slots) are empty.
          a. Do you think Compal added some Diag/Programming ports (could be used by only removing laptop's metal back-cover)
          b. Or, if this same MB is really also used in Precision-5570 ... do those somehow have an option this one doesn't?

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          • m1ch43lzm
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            • Mar 2019
            • 2151
            • Peru

            #6
            SOIC8 clip won't work with WSON8 package, it's designed to touch the legs on a SOIC8/SOP8 chip, not with the pads on the motherboard (WSON8 chip doesn't have legs)

            1. Who knows, it depends how it was exported from the original CAD program, if mirror works then it's what it is... Several boardviews are like that

            2. a. JDUDC1 looks like a debug connector for the prototype version of the board that's removed from final production version, used for programming SPI flash and/or JTAG debug, there's a mux chip U740 on the back side of the board for that purpose (page 79 of schematics)
            But, since U740 is marked with DUDC@, it may not be present on the board at all; anything marked @ on the schematics means it's an option which may or may not be present on your board (removed from final production version)
            b. Different GPU (RTX A1000 or A2000) for the Precision variant, instead of GeForce RTX 3050/3050 Ti for the XPS

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            • Tesla
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              • Jul 2011
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              #7
              Originally posted by m1ch43lzm

              0. SOIC8 clip won't work with WSON8 package, it's designed to touch the legs on a SOIC8/SOP8 chip, not with the pads on the motherboard (WSON8 chip doesn't have legs)

              1. Who knows, it depends how it was exported from the original CAD program, if mirror works then it's what it is... Several boardviews are like that

              2. a. JDUDC1 looks like a debug connector for the prototype version of the board that's removed from final production version, used for programming SPI flash and/or JTAG debug, there's a mux chip U740 on the back side of the board for that purpose (page 79 of schematics)
              But, since U740 is marked with DUDC@, it may not be present on the board at all; anything marked @ on the schematics means it's an option which may or may not be present on your board (removed from final production version)
              b. Different GPU (RTX A1000 or A2000) for the Precision variant, instead of GeForce RTX 3050/3050 Ti for the XPS
              0. Agreed. The metal contacts end-up around 0.5 mm away from making contact. It would definitely have to be modified (hand-filed-down at the very least).

              1. Thanks, that's what I needed to know.

              2a. Very interesting (so, kinda what I thought). Yes, and you can see by the full motherboard model-number, this is a Rev: 0.3 (X02) . As you might expect, it also initially came to me (for evaluation) with an early "X" experimental-bios. However, I've always just treated it like a "released machine" and it's done fine. BIOS-Firmwares always applied fine, Intel-ME and sub-controllers updated properly, all as it should be. I'm retired, so I don't work for them any more but that was the mission ... use normally for real, keep current (firmwares and OS), attach and test peripherals and networking ... evaluate and report.

              2b. Acknowledged. That's what I've heard, but never seen or used-one in real-life (and certainly never been inside one).

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              • Tesla
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                • Jul 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by m1ch43lzm
                Make sure to get WSON8 probe, shown in that video,
                Ok, I got the pogo-WSON8 , and it got past the Pin-Detection on first try 😀

                I have XgPro set to "W25R512JV @WSON8" and my chip on MB is a Winbond 25R512JVEN.

                EDIT:

                The Check-ID option is also working (never-mind what I said before)

                The Verification after Read passed for both separate reading procedures
                I got the same log-window CheckSum for both reads
                I selected FLASH on the Select-Buffer option when I saved each file.

                So, while I got the same Checksum for both tries, what is the accepted way of comparing the files (to be sure they exactly match) before uploading one?

                Also, should I upload them here, or inside the "BIOS Request" sub-forum?

                So, with a T76 ( and a pogo-clip with a 11-inch cable) are you sure we have to slow all the way down to 8Mhz?
                The reason I ask is because it's recommending/defaulting to 40Mhz. But you are warning against excessive speed, so I did one of mine at 8Mhz and then the other at 16Mhz.
                The reason I ask is because it (8mhz vs 16mhz) takes twice as long, and the longer you have to hold it risks an error.
                I don't mean to question you (the expert) just asking.

                Thanks again for all your help.

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                • m1ch43lzm
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 2151
                  • Peru

                  #9
                  ID check should return EF 40 20 for W25R512JV, it could be a bad connection, or the rest of the circuit is interferring with proper read

                  You got a prototype/debug unit, didn't zoom in your picture so I didn't notice JDUDC1 was fitted to the board, in theory it should be possible to read the BIOS chip using that connector
                  Last resort is desoldering the chip

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                  • Tesla
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                    • Jul 2011
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by m1ch43lzm

                    1. ID check should return EF 40 20 for W25R512JV,

                    2. it could be a bad connection, or the rest of the circuit is interfering with proper read

                    3. You got a prototype/debug unit, didn't zoom in your picture so I didn't notice JDUDC1 was fitted to the board, in theory it should be possible to read the BIOS chip using that connector
                    Last resort is desoldering the chip
                    1. Yes, ID: 0x EF 40 20

                    2. Please see my edit post above ... It's working fine now. Sorry, but I think I had something set a bit wrong. I'm still trying to get familiar with the software and its use.

                    3. So I'm fine. Yeah, I never considered that they might only be on the early-revision boards. I just had a feeling that if they Brick this easy, Compal likely has a way of re-writing the roms without pulling the motherboards.

                    Please respond to my edited post above when you get a chance. I looked-up Peru ... I'm in Texas.



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                    • m1ch43lzm
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                      • Mar 2019
                      • 2151
                      • Peru

                      #11
                      I've had problems reading chips at the fastest speed (30MHz on the T48) when using clip/pogo adapter before, random bytes being different each time; there's also a note on Xgpro software that says "(Reduce clock frequency if using clip or with ISP port)", the faster speed works fine with a chip desoldered from the board and placing it in the appropriate adapter (in your case WSON8/DFN8 8x6, pictured below)
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	wson8 socket.jpg Views:	0 Size:	68.0 KB ID:	3843498

                      If 16MHz works fine and you get consistent reads (binary identical), then that's great, since you have a 64MB BIOS chip, otherwise it'll take ages to read and write to the chip
                      * Additional note. I've had issues with SOIC8 clip and using it with the blue (or green) PCB that has header pins and solder pads for SOIC8 and SOIC16 chips, that thing wouldn't work properly at anything higher than 4MHz; the DIP8 to header pins adapter works better
                      Click image for larger version  Name:	soic8 clip adapter.jpg Views:	0 Size:	101.1 KB ID:	3843499

                      For comparing binary files i use WinMerge, it will highlight differences in yellow, otherwise it will tell you that both files are identical, you can also use UEFITool to open the BIOS file, it should show as Intel image, expand it and it should show Descriptor, ME region, BIOS region

                      Upload in BIOS request forum, in the Dell XPS 9520 bios thread, https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...520-bios/page2
                      Also type the service tag from bottom cover ST: (it's the rules there https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...before-posting )
                      Don't know if prototypes have a service tag like retail units, mention that if it doesn't have one

                      3. So I'm fine. Yeah, I never considered that they might only be on the early-revision boards. I just had a feeling that if they Brick this easy, Compal likely has a way of re-writing the roms without pulling the motherboards.
                      Retail units don't have those connectors installed, just the solder pads are there (engineers don't bother to remove those "leftovers" when designing the PCB, just remove them from the BOM, it saves few cents for each board..)

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                      • Tesla
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by m1ch43lzm

                        1. I've had problems reading chips at the fastest speed (30MHz on the T48) when using clip/pogo adapter before, random bytes being different each time;

                        2. there's also a note on Xgpro software that says "(Reduce clock frequency if using clip or with ISP port)",

                        3. the faster speed works fine with a chip de-soldered from the board and placing it in the appropriate adapter

                        4. If 16MHz works fine and you get consistent reads (binary identical), then that's great, since you have a 64MB BIOS chip, otherwise it'll take ages to read and write to the chip

                        5. Additional note. I've had issues with SOIC8 clip and using it with the blue (or green) PCB that has header pins and solder pads for SOIC8 and SOIC16 chips, that thing wouldn't work properly at anything higher than 4MHz; the DIP8 to header pins adapter works better

                        1. Kudos to you for identifying the problem and discovering a viable work-around.

                        My thoughts are we shouldn't take for granted that these programmers were really designed to have the chips legs inserted directly into the main-socket (no extra connectors and long-ish wires).

                        2. Yes, I saw that, but they don't really say by how much. Maybe just 50% is enough? Maybe it's 8-Mhz for T48, but upgraded T76 (with the extra power-amps of USB-3.0 ... and I think internal PCB is different) can do more like 16-Mhz ? (and still be toned down safer). To me, Speed means nothing if its not reliable and/or viable.

                        3. Sure, but the skill to do that (successfully and without further damage) is not trivial. Still getting successful results with the pogo-tool is fairly amazing. I don't mean to jinx-it, but with yall's help, I might actually be able to turn this Brick back into a working laptop.

                        4. Cool and yes, that's true (even 34 seconds seems like forever). And I forget if the Verify-After pass is included or extra.

                        5. Interesting ... another good observation and workaround.

                        In XgPro, for motherboard-chip in XPS-15 (9520): Winbond 25R512JVEN
                        select "W25R512JV @WSON8"
                        -----------------------------
                        W25R512JV
                        Passes ID-Check: 0x EF 40 20
                        64MB-BIOS
                        67,108,864 bytes
                        34-sec reads at SPI-Clock of 16-Mhz

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                        • Tesla
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by m1ch43lzm

                          Upload in BIOS request forum, in the Dell XPS 9520 bios thread, https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...520-bios/page2
                          Also type the service tag from bottom cover ST:
                          OK, I uploaded it.

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                          • Tesla
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                            #14
                            m1ch43lzm ,

                            My fixed file is ready and I downloaded it.

                            I did a little research and this is what I came up with.

                            I will first use separate Erase and Blank-check. Seems required so I'll get that done and out of the way.

                            Using the same options as before:
                            - Selected IC: W25R512JV @WSON8
                            - Pin Detect, Verify After, Skip Blank, and Check-ID
                            - Address Range: ALL
                            - Unprotect Before Programming.
                            - 16Mhz SPI-Clock (or maybe 8-Mhz if trouble Verifying at end)

                            I'll LOAD the new .BIN-file (using that window's default-settings, as I was later instructed)
                            Finally, click Prog/Write button.
                            As usual, look for a good/perfect Verify.

                            Looks like the motherboard will need to be pretty-much fully-reinstalled to see if it all worked.

                            EDITED

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                            • m1ch43lzm
                              Super Moderator
                              • Mar 2019
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                              #15
                              The way you do it looks OK to me, you can rest your hand between erasing and writing
                              Or, you can do it in one go if you tick "Erase before", you just have to hold the probe for longer time while it does Erase - Write - Verify

                              If all goes well, the first boot will take a very long time, it may be stuck at Dell logo or a black screen (some Dell laptops will display a Dell logo even without RAM installed, I think the logo is programmed into the screen somehow)

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                              • Tesla
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                                #16
                                Erasing and Blank (check) were fairly straight-forward (they should both just run with no errors). The Erase took like 4 minutes for this 64MB-chip. I'm still using the 16-Mhz Clock Frequency (speed).

                                Strangely, out of no-where ... the T76 freaked-out and started complaining about too-many Vcc amps or a short (on all functions, even READ-ing). First time that happened... I thought my chip/mb got fried somehow.
                                Simply power-cycling the T76 fixed it. I almost had a heart-attack.

                                I recall that during a file SAVE, I selected FLASH on the Select-Buffer option ...

                                Do I now select "FLASH" for Buffer Region on file-loading?
                                Last edited by Tesla; 03-23-2026, 10:34 AM. Reason: Pic had wrong options set and might be confusing to new T76 owners

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                                • Tesla
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by m1ch43lzm

                                  1. The way you do it looks OK to me, you can rest your hand between erasing and writing

                                  2. If all goes well, the first boot will take a very long time, it may be stuck at Dell logo or a black screen

                                  3. some Dell laptops will display a Dell logo even without RAM installed,
                                  1. Thanks for the verification.

                                  2. Acknowledged

                                  3. Yeah, I think this one does that.
                                  Also, even though it's soft-bricked, the Display-Test still runs like nothing is wrong. One of the only signs-of-life ... very strange.

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                                  • m1ch43lzm
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tesla
                                    I recall that during a file SAVE, I selected FLASH on the Select-Buffer option ...

                                    Do I now select "FLASH" for Buffer Region on file-loading?
                                    Just leave the default settings when loading the file, you don't need to worry about that, result is the same anyway as long as you don't change anything else
                                    Only when reading/saving the file, as the latest versions of Xgpro software append a -Configuration- thing at the end of the file with a copy of the status registers, that can be safely trimmed with hex editor

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                                    • Tesla
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by m1ch43lzm
                                      Just leave the default settings when loading the file, you don't need to worry about that, result is the same anyway as long as you don't change anything else
                                      I'm glad I asked. So, options should look like this when loading:

                                      Click image for larger version

Name:	Loading new BIN file.png
Views:	99
Size:	29.8 KB
ID:	3844187

                                      Thanks.

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                                      • m1ch43lzm
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                                        • Mar 2019
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                                        #20
                                        That should work, if I remember correctly the options get reset every time you click on load
                                        I'm not near my PC right now, I'm writing this from my phone

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