TPS51225CRUKR Voltage limit

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  • Bradbeat
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    • Jul 2025
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    #1

    TPS51225CRUKR Voltage limit

    Hi,
    I have a PGOOD pin down on this chip and I’m wondering if it could be because there is 5,2 v on VREG5 ( the high limit according to the datasheet is 5,1v ).
    if yes, why is it to high?
    the motherboard board is LA-G881P.
    thank you.

    here is some measurements :
    • VIN = 16,3 V
    • VREG3 = 3,299 V
    • VREG5 = 5,203 V
    • SW2 (repos) = 3,423 V, pikes at ~16,4 V
    • VBST2 = 8,592 V → VBST2 − SW2 = ≈ 5,17 V
    • VO1 = 5,28 V (stable)
    • EN1 = 3,08 V, EN2 = 3,04 V
    • VFB1/VFB2 ≈ 2,1 V



  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
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    #2
    No. Pgood is open drain so it must feature an external pull up resistor to park the line when the signal is released. When Vout is 95% reached, the line should float.

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    • Bradbeat
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      • Jul 2025
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      #3

      Thank you for your answer,
      I can't see any pull up on the board so I assume it is in the super I/O chip?
      If it is, is the SIO burnt or could it be un SIO firmware issue?

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      • mon2
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        • Dec 2019
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        #4
        Which product / motherboard are you reviewing? Link the details (here) / schematics (inside the schematic forum).

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        • Bradbeat
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          #5
          hi, it's the LA-G881P from an alienware area 51m r1 if i understood what you asked?

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          • mon2
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            • Dec 2019
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            #6
            Are DE2 and DE3 stuffed on your board?

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            • Bradbeat
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              #7
              No, they aren't

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              • mon2
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                #8
                Are there pcb trace shorts @ DE2 or D3? If yes, then the EC is monitoring this POK line.

                Otherwise, I do not see why POK signal is important. It is not bonded to anything if these parts are missing. It appears to be a floating signal.

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                • Bradbeat
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                  #9
                  no,they're are not.
                  It's possible that signal is not important for the ec chip to turn EC_RSMRST# on?
                  I assume my problem is elsewhere 😅

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                  • Bradbeat
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                    Here are 2 pictures of 5VALW and 3VALW signals, probed on the coils.
                    Are thoses pikes at 17 v normals?
                    Shouldn't they be almost flat?

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                    • mon2
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                      #11
                      No. These are dangerous IMHO. I recall a similar case when I was on the XMOS (audio) forum in the UK. The XMOS devices are like a FPGA that offers multiple cores of independent logic to run in parallel. One of their reference design was to run the USB engine for which they use a USB connector. The VBUS line would have similar spikes and the root cause was linked to the USB cable due to inductive inrush currents then hitting a high capacitance on the board. That is, the voltage literally multiplied - like your case.

                      What is the resistance to ground of these rails? What is the capacitance to ground of the same rails?

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                      • Bradbeat
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                        • Jul 2025
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                        #12
                        I'm new to this, i really want to learn so thank you for your help!
                        What could cause that?

                        3.3v rail : ~20Kohms 580uF
                        5v rail : ~20Kohms 470uF

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