Thinkpad E15 Gen2 Intel "lower wattage AC Adapter"

[danny34]

Unfortunately that's not it either.

I uninstalled and reinstalled PD & power supply drivers, and everything that says energy or power.
Unfortunately that didn't help.

Lenovo Vantage says "charging" under battery settings but says "not connected" under power adapter.

[mon2]

Try

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPa...de/m-p/5188397

[danny34]

I soldered in a new UB7 today. Now the gate voltage is at 27.9V and I have 19.9 volts at the output of QB6. Of course that's great.
Unfortunately, the message still comes up when you start... and it loads, but slowly.
And it still doesn't show in the taskbar that it's charging.

any more ideas?
All drivers are up to date and checked again with Lenovo Vantage.

[danny34]

QB5 Gate - 20,4V
VCC3_LDO_PD - 3,48V
ADCIN1 - 0,371V
ADCIN2 - 3,48V

[mon2]

What is the gate voltage (pin 4) of the QB5 mosfet?

QB5 & QB6 are being driven by the PD controller @ UB7. If the mosfet is not defective then UB7 is a suspect.

What is the voltage to ground of the following?

VCC3_LDO_PD
ADCIN1
ADCIN2

[danny34]

Pin 1 VBUS - 17,94V
Pin 7 VDDA - 6,08V
Pin 22 VSYS - 9,18V
Pin 28 REGN - 6,07V

[mon2]

What is the voltage to ground of the REGN pin # 28 on the charger IC (bq25710)? This must be ~6 volts.

Check the voltage to ground of the following pins of interest.

[danny34]

Pin 1-3 280kohm.

gate voltage is 20.4V.
Input voltage 19.94V.
Output voltage at pin 1-3 17.91V. I saw in a YouTube video about the E15 Gen2 that the gate voltage should be 28V so that the Mosfet opens fully. The QB6 also gets very warm.
That's why I wanted to change the UB7, but the one from China was probably defective. There was only 5V available from the USB.

[mon2]

Mosfets look ok.

Remove all power. Measure the resistance to ground of pins 1-2-3 (any pin is ok) of QB6.

[danny34]

What is the input voltage to QB5? (First dcin MOSFET)

The UB7 of controller is the original?

Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance across the dcin MOSFETS.

Source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
Source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
Gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)

Post each measurement. Test QB5 and QB6.

QB5:
Source - Drain = OL
source - Gate = 0,6M ohm
Gate - Drain = OL

QB6:
S - D = OL
S - G = OL
G - S = OL


CHG_OK at BQ25710 has 3,3V.

[mon2]

Each part serves a purpose so suggest not to do this. For example, the raw voltage from the power adapter will not enter the main power line which is probably ok since you mentioned the unit functions but the protection circuits that are based on the charger IC / PD controller are no longer able to power off these missing and bypassed mosfets. If perhaps the battery mosfet is leaking then that voltage will collide with the raw power adapter voltage and possibly nuke the external power adapter. A risky thought unless you have a current limited DC lab power supply.

So the 20v3 is a good voltage but of course drops to the lower output which is being sensed as being too low. This sensing may be at the BQ charger level. There is a status line of charger OK -> what is the voltage to ground there?

Based on this rather large voltage drop, these same DCin mosfets are suspects. When you can, check their resistance as noted above. One or both may be defective (since the laptop works).

[danny34]

Thanks for the reply.

The input voltage on the QB5 is 20.3V.

UB7 is the original one.

I can test the mosfets later, unfortunately I'm at work right now.

I updated the BIOS yesterday to version 1.62 (September 3, 2024), as well as all drivers including PD drivers.
Then reset the bios again.
Unfortunately that didn't change anything.


EDIT: What would happen if I just bridged QB5 and QB6?

[mon2]

Update your bios.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-...5172725?page=3

[mon2]

What is the input voltage to QB5? (First dcin MOSFET)

The UB7 of controller is the original?

Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode. Measure the resistance across the dcin MOSFETS.

Source (1-2-3) & drain (5-6-7-8)
Source (1-2-3) & gate (4)
Gate (4) & drain (5-6-7-8)

Post each measurement. Test QB5 and QB6.

[danny34]

Hello folks,

My Thinkpad E15 Gen2 with i7 had stopped loading and wouldn't start either. I noticed the typical error with the Mosfet QB6. This has become unsoldered.

I soldered it back on and found that the gate voltage was too low and that's why it was getting hot. Then I wanted to replace the UB7. Unfortunately the one I ordered from China didn't want to run.
So I soldered the old one back in and it still has its 18.9V at the output of QB6.
I stuck a thermal pad on the QB6 to cool it down a bit.

Now the E15 is running again, but unfortunately it shows every time it starts:
"The connected AC adapter has a lower wattage than the recommended model which was shipped with the system. To boot with the AC adapter, please connect the AC adapter which was shipped with the system.

Press Esc to continue."

However, the notebook charges even when it is running. However, the battery indicator in the taskbar does not show this. But every 3 minutes the battery goes up 1%.

Where does the motherboard get the signal with the charger?

Schematic: HERE