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  • crazypepe
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 34
    • Philippines

    #1

    dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

    hi guys

    got a dell inspiron mini 1012 that is not charging

    have replaced the burnt charging ic with new one
    (ISL6251AHAZ)
    now it says plugged in,charging but battery is stuck at 0%
    have replaced the battery also but still the same

    any ideas?

    thanks in advance
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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4953
    • New Zealand

    #2
    Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

    Probably some other component around charger IC circuitry also failed.
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • jtamad44
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 145
      • israel

      #3
      Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

      Originally posted by crazypepe
      hi guys

      got a dell inspiron mini 1012 that is not charging

      have replaced the burnt charging ic with new one
      (ISL6251AHAZ)
      now it says plugged in,charging but battery is stuck at 0%
      have replaced the battery also but still the same

      any ideas?

      thanks in advance
      Try to update bios.

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 31017
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

        if the chip shorted,
        it probably blew an smd fuse.

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        • crazypepe
          Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 34
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

          thanks for the reply guys

          @jtamad44

          tried updating bios but it wont update if battery is less than 10%

          @agent24

          actually i keep checking on other components around it still cant find ones that failed

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 31017
            • Albion

            #6
            Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

            if you have a datasheet for the charge i.c. you can check the inputs and outputs.

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            • masud
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jul 2011
              • 317
              • Bangladesh

              #7
              Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

              try on changing the two mosfets nearby the (ISL6251AHAZ).

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              • sanehdeep2012
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 139
                • india

                #8
                Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                check voltage at pin no 3 of isl6251 it should be high, and check bat charging voltage present at pin no 18 of ISL6251

                most probably BELOW COMPONENTS ARE FAULTY CHECK THESE AT YOUR SIDE
                U16 = ISL6251
                PQ35,PQ39=SIS412DN / SI7716ADN
                ALSO CHECK FOR PR178FUSEABLE RESISTANCE AT +BAT CONNECTION

                ALSO SHARE THE VOLTAGE AT U16 ISL6251

                Last edited by sanehdeep2012; 05-21-2014, 12:39 AM.

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                • crazypepe
                  Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 34
                  • Philippines

                  #9
                  Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                  @sanehdeep2012

                  checked pq35, pq39 out of circuit, both are good
                  resistance for pr178 is 1.4 ohms in my dmm

                  here are the voltages of u16

                  pin 1-5.0v
                  2-4.7v
                  3-0v
                  4-0v
                  5-0v
                  6-0v
                  7-0v
                  8-2.3v
                  9-0v
                  10-0.8v
                  11-0v
                  12-0v
                  13-0v
                  14-0v
                  15-5.0v
                  16-5.0v
                  17-0.6v
                  18-0.7v
                  19-20v
                  20-20v
                  21-0.8v
                  22-0.6v
                  23-0v
                  24-20v

                  thats my second replacement for isl6251

                  thanks for the reply guys

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                  • crazypepe
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 34
                    • Philippines

                    #10
                    Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                    dont know if its related but pq40 shows short on pin 3 and pin 2, both sides


                    is that ok?

                    thanks again in advance

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                    • sanehdeep2012
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 139
                      • india

                      #11
                      Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                      as per you provide the volage of u16
                      problem releated to
                      pin no 3 (charging enable pin)should be high when charger and battery is connected,in your case pin no 3 of u16 is 0v

                      please clear the following

                      1.battery and charger should be attached to laptop.
                      2.check voltage at pin no 3,6, 7 of battery connector JBATT1 THESE SHOULD BE 3 TO 3.3 V DC.IF Missing check for related ckt and battery faulty.
                      3.Check battery try to replace with another
                      4. PQ40 IS OK as it is use to provide the adapter voltage dcin pin no 24 of u16 and that voltage is available to u16

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                      • proman28
                        New Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 9
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                        hi i worked on the dell mini 9 and 10s the problem you have isnt a fault just flash bios back to a02 you most likely find it cured the problem let me know

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 31017
                          • Albion

                          #13
                          Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                          that may be a challenge,
                          dell flashers often want a full battery AND external charger or they wont run.

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                          • proman28
                            New Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 9
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                            no, you can flash in dos mode by using external commands, after your bios file ***.exe /forceit /nopause will flash down

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                            • crazypepe
                              Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 34
                              • Philippines

                              #15
                              Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                              thanks for all the replies guys

                              @sanehdeep

                              voltages of jbatt with battery on:

                              pin 1 - 9.2v
                              2 - 9.2v
                              3 - 3.2v
                              4 - 0 v
                              5 - 2v
                              6 - 5v
                              7 - 5v

                              voltages of jbatt without battery
                              pin 1 - 0.6v
                              2 - 0.6v
                              3 - 7 same as with battery

                              should i replace the charging ic (ISL6251) again?

                              @proman28
                              hi proman unfortunately i couldnt find the bios version a02 so i tried upgrading the bios to a12 in dos mode but still battery still stuck at 0%

                              do you have a copy of a02?


                              have another battery for this model but stuck at 5%
                              other battery is 0%


                              thanks again

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                              • sanehdeep2012
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 139
                                • india

                                #16
                                Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                                pl check PL10 coil for open at battery connector , go through attatchment



                                hope your problem will be solved this time, i hope so.


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                                • sanehdeep2012
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Oct 2013
                                  • 139
                                  • india

                                  #17
                                  Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                                  i am sure the PL10 is open

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                                  • loser18
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Nov 2013
                                    • 274
                                    • UK

                                    #18
                                    Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                                    Originally posted by crazypepe
                                    thanks for all the replies guys

                                    @sanehdeep

                                    voltages of jbatt with battery on:

                                    pin 1 - 9.2v
                                    2 - 9.2v
                                    3 - 3.2v
                                    4 - 0 v
                                    5 - 2v
                                    6 - 5v
                                    7 - 5v

                                    voltages of jbatt without battery
                                    pin 1 - 0.6v
                                    2 - 0.6v
                                    3 - 7 same as with battery

                                    should i replace the charging ic (ISL6251) again?

                                    @proman28
                                    hi proman unfortunately i couldnt find the bios version a02 so i tried upgrading the bios to a12 in dos mode but still battery still stuck at 0%

                                    do you have a copy of a02?


                                    have another battery for this model but stuck at 5%
                                    other battery is 0%


                                    thanks again
                                    Again...If the laptop posts, DON'T WORRY ABOUT BIOS!!!
                                    It has got nothing to do with BIOS...
                                    As sanehdeep2012 said you don't have voltage on PIN3 & therefore the PU16 disables charging...
                                    Last edited by loser18; 05-27-2014, 10:50 AM.

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                                    • sanehdeep2012
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Oct 2013
                                      • 139
                                      • india

                                      #19
                                      Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                                      pin no 3 of u16 is low as it not detecting the battery because the path of battery connector pin no1/3 is disconnected from u16 pin no 18, only three components are there in that line
                                      PL10, PL 15 AND PR178
                                      pl check all these because one end you have 9.2v and other hand you have 0.7v which mean something is open in between, so i suggest three component only pl check i sure you will resolve the isue and give a good news to us

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                                      • proman28
                                        New Member
                                        • May 2014
                                        • 9
                                        • uk

                                        #20
                                        Re: dell inspiron mini 1012 not charging batt

                                        sanehdeep downgrade your bios to a00 i done hundreds of these mini 10 and 9 before u start soldering un soldering

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