Asus Rog GL703G/Battery Connector Short

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  • mon2
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    • Dec 2019
    • 14673
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    #81
    To me, that is a low resistance. For giggles, flux and remove the cap that is on this rail. Then measure the resistance again on this pin.

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    • GlassMonolith
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      • Mar 2024
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      #82
      mon2 Okay, so I took off the cap circled in the photo. Still measured 50ohm.

      On an unfortunate note; I managed to accidentally swipe off an additional cap (as seen in photo) and have no idea where it even went (I cleaned my iron tip before realizing it was gone). Hopefully it's easy enough to figure out what cap to replace it with?

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      • mon2
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        • Dec 2019
        • 14673
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        #83
        Yes, we should be able to determine the missing cap details from the datasheet of the bq24780s charger ic.

        Meter in resistance mode. No power to the board. Measure the resistance from the top pad of the missing capacitor to each pin on the charger ic. Stop when you find the pin that shows ~ 0 ohms.

        Also, carefully flux and remove the sot23 3 pin part with L43 markings. Do not lose the part.

        Then measure the resistance to ground again of this REGN pin. Still at 50 ohms?

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        • GlassMonolith
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          • Mar 2024
          • 63
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          #84
          mon2 Okay, I measured every pins resistance, and the one with 0 appears to be pin 18. I'm going to work on pulling the sot23 in a couple hours.

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          • GlassMonolith
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            • Mar 2024
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            #85
            mon2 Okay, with sot23 off, still reading 50ohm.

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            • GlassMonolith
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              • Mar 2024
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              #86
              mon2 Thoughts?

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              • reformatt
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                • Feb 2020
                • 1507
                • Australia

                #87
                Replace the BQ24780S IC.

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                • GlassMonolith
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                  • Mar 2024
                  • 63
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                  #88
                  reformatt I figured, at this point. He was having me test another part of the circuit though (not sure what it was for), and I ended up losing a capacitor from it, so I'm trying to get info on what to replace it with as well as the info on those measurements.

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                  • reformatt
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                    • Feb 2020
                    • 1507
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                    #89
                    Cap on pin 24 is 2.2uf 16V 0603, pin 21 is 0.1uf 25V 0402

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                    • GlassMonolith
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                      • Mar 2024
                      • 63
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                      #90
                      reformatt And just to verify, that's for the cap that measured 0ohm on pin 18?

                      Also, I'm seeing a couple results on Digikey. Does the Temp Coefficient matter?

                      Also #2... What's the difference between bq24780sRUYR and bq24780sRUYT?

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                      • reformatt
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                        • Feb 2020
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                        #91
                        Originally posted by GlassMonolith
                        reformatt And just to verify, that's for the cap that measured 0ohm on pin 18?
                        According to the schematic, nothing is connected to pin 18. Pin 1 starts from the RHS where the dot is and counts counterclockwise. In your photo you have removed two caps, one is on pin 21, the other pin 24. X5R should be fine.

                        No difference between the two BQ chips - difference in numbering is just for tape and reel packaging. Check the datasheet.

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                        • GlassMonolith
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                          • Mar 2024
                          • 63
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                          #92
                          reformatt mon2

                          Okay so chip came in and have it on the board. What can I check/test for safety before giving it power to make sure it's all good? Continuity seems to flow through a couple of legs, but not most others.

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                          • reformatt
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                            • Feb 2020
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                            #93
                            Make sure pin 1 is where it should go and no solder bridges across pins. Sometimes QFN's don't make good contact with the board, that's why you touch up the sides with flux and solder with a micro tip. If the soldering contacts aren't up to scratch, it will simply not work.

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                            • GlassMonolith
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                              • Mar 2024
                              • 63
                              • United States

                              #94
                              reformatt Okay. With such a small chip, I wasn't sure if briging was possible underneath where I wouldn't be able to see. But it looks like I'm lined up pretty well.

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                              • GlassMonolith
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                                • Mar 2024
                                • 63
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                                #95
                                reformatt mon2

                                Well, got it all back together, battery plugged in and power cable in and still nothing. Assuming you guys will want the same readings again off of the IC, so I can get those posted up tomorrow. Then anything else you'll want me to check?

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                                • GlassMonolith
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                                  • Mar 2024
                                  • 63
                                  • United States

                                  #96
                                  reformatt

                                  Okay, here's todays measurements.;

                                  IC:
                                  Pin 4: 0.1v
                                  Pin 5: 0.3v
                                  Pin 6: 2.7v
                                  Pin24: 0.2v
                                  Pin28: 19.5v​

                                  Results are slightly different than before, what could that mean?

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                                  • mon2
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                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 14673
                                    • Canada

                                    #97
                                    Post a pic of the reworked charger ic.

                                    Does the logic board boot with the power adapter?

                                    Carefully(!!) measure the voltage to ground of each pin on the charger ic with the power adapter connected.

                                    Post the table of values with each pin / function label.

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                                    • GlassMonolith
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                                      • Mar 2024
                                      • 63
                                      • United States

                                      #98
                                      mon2

                                      Working on the measurements asap, but here's the photo.
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • mon2
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                                        • Dec 2019
                                        • 14673
                                        • Canada

                                        #99
                                        Top view looks good but be sure that the writing on the replacement is 100% in the same orientation as the original.

                                        Only then we know that pin #1 on the IC = #1 on the PCB.

                                        Pour some alcohol onto the top side and share an angle pic so that the writing of the topside is visible. Only for inspection by the internet techs.

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                                        • GlassMonolith
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                                          • Mar 2024
                                          • 63
                                          • United States

                                          #100
                                          Full IC pin;

                                          1: 0.90v - ACN
                                          2: 0.90v - ACP
                                          3: 0.08v - CMSRC
                                          4: 0.08v - ACDRV
                                          5: 0.05v - ACOK
                                          6: 2.70v - ACDET
                                          7: 0.00v - IADPT

                                          8: 0.00v - IDCHG
                                          9: 1.06v - PMON
                                          10: 0.00v - PROCHOT
                                          11: 0.24v - SDA
                                          12: 0.30v - SCL
                                          13: 0.04v - CMPIN
                                          14: 1.20v - CMPOUT

                                          15: 0.00v - BATPRES
                                          16: 0.00v - TB_STAT
                                          17: 1.24v - BATSRC
                                          18: 1.15v - BATDRV
                                          19: 1.25v - SRN
                                          20: 1.24v - SRP
                                          21: 0.06v - ILIM

                                          22: 0.00v - GND
                                          23: 0.15v - LODRV
                                          24: 0.02v - REGN
                                          25: 0.35v - BTST
                                          26: 1.65v - HIDRV
                                          27: 1.25v - PHASE
                                          28: 19.5v - VCC

                                          And photo for the internet techs;
                                          Attached Files

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