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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #101
    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

    Are you getting 160VDC at the two legs of those two main filter caps?
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    • Crrose
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 165
      • Usa

      #102
      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

      I did the same with the relay and got these results if it means anything.
      Leg 2-3 = 1.435
      Leg 2-4 = 1.710
      Leg 2-5 = 1.790
      Leg 3-2 = 1.419
      Leg 3-4 = .961
      Leg 3-5 = 1.239
      Leg 4-2 and 4-3 = nothing
      Leg 4-5 = .565
      Leg 5-2 and 5-3 = nothing
      Leg 5-4 = .509

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      • Crrose
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 165
        • Usa

        #103
        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

        Can I test them without power to the board? When I do I only get .30v

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #104
          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

          Ok when you say nothing do you mean the same as touching the probes together 0.00 or perhaps a single 0 on the left of the meter screen? ( or OL -something meaning off scale or overscale)

          I think these are the points to check the relay - you apply the voltage
          to points R1 and R2 and take an ohms reading on AC1 to AC2 - should go from
          open offscale or OL to 0.00 or close to

          Perhaps wait for budm to comment as he did mention a zener in parallel and I dont know if he meant care as the reading wouldnt work or CARE as in damaging the diode
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          • Crrose
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 165
            • Usa

            #105
            Re: Help with Motor Control Board

            If I hooked the power up to the board and powered it on would it do any damage to it since the heat sink would not be hooked up?

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            • Crrose
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 165
              • Usa

              #106
              Re: Help with Motor Control Board

              I have a cheaper DMM it doesn't give you OL. In diode mode it starts at 1. and if no reading it stays that way, if I get a reading the .1 disappears and get a reading.

              Been searching for a cheap used FLuke but can't find one.
              Last edited by Crrose; 01-09-2015, 03:50 PM.

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #107
                Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                Sorry I meant the nothing in ohms mode post10

                Originally posted by Crrose
                AC1 to DC+ I get .527, reversed nothing, AC2 to DC- is .522, reversed is nothing. AC1 to AC2 nothing either way. This was done on diode setting. When set to 2000 ohms there was no reading at all.
                No you cant apply mains power without the heatsinks and no you cant test the big caps without powering up
                In pictures on the net of these boards they have the heatsink part attached
                can you do that or is yours attached to the frame? or wont the cables reach?

                As mentioned before an alternative would be to solder wires to the caps.
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #108
                  Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                  Just reread post 10 and your comments on your meter if I have the test points correct I think that means the bridge is ok
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                  • Crrose
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 165
                    • Usa

                    #109
                    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                    Ok if I put my battery to RLY1 and RLY2 and test ohm at AC1 and AC2 I get no reading. If on diode mode its 1.452

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                    • selldoor
                      Slow Learner
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7870

                      #110
                      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                      Dont suppose you heard it click? - what polarity did you use battery plus to ???
                      I meant you to wait until budm came back on to check about the diode.
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                      • Crrose
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 165
                        • Usa

                        #111
                        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                        I can't hook up my board to the heat sink without attaching it to the mounting frame. Once it is attached to the mounting frame there is no access to the bottom of the board. I guess I could try to solder some wire to the bottom of the caps and hook it back up. Does it matter the size of wire?

                        No click to relay but I was only using an 18v battery so may not be enough power.

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                        • Crrose
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 165
                          • Usa

                          #112
                          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                          I just realized my mower is 24v I'll try to get relay to click with it.

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                          • Crrose
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 165
                            • Usa

                            #113
                            Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                            I hooked by mower battery up and the relay opens and closes. Tested the Ohms and get .6 when set at 200ohms.

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                            • selldoor
                              Slow Learner
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7870

                              #114
                              Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                              Originally posted by Crrose
                              I hooked by mower battery up and the relay opens and closes. Tested the Ohms and get .6 when set at 200ohms.
                              Hurrah success- a little success but success -

                              Wire guage ?? thin mains wire like for a low wattage bedside lamp
                              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                              • Crrose
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 165
                                • Usa

                                #115
                                Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                Ok I have some 18/2 lamp wire I can use.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #116
                                  Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                  Heat is only needed when the motor is running and since the motor is not working you do not have to worry about heating up the bridge rectifier or the power MOSFET.
                                  We need to know if the main caps on the motor driver board has Voltage on the main cap or not. The relay looks to be for soft-start circuit.
                                  The MOSFET is connected in series with the motor and it is driven by PWM signal to the Gate.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • Crrose
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2013
                                    • 165
                                    • Usa

                                    #117
                                    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                    I just soldered wires to the large caps. When I turn the power on do I test them individually or hook both + to + and - to - ?. Everything is hooked back and put together like it is supposed to be.

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                                    • Crrose
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Dec 2013
                                      • 165
                                      • Usa

                                      #118
                                      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                      I thought I would try each individually since it couldn't hurt. I get 166.6 on the one closest to the relay and -49 on the other.

                                      I can also hear the relay clicking on and off which it wasn't doing before.
                                      Last edited by Crrose; 01-09-2015, 05:30 PM.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #119
                                        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                        166VDC is fine and that is what I expected. I am still wondering about the solder joints on those two Zener diodes that the pads look to be damaged and you were getting 6.6V and then 15V, there may be bad joints on the board.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • Crrose
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Dec 2013
                                          • 165
                                          • Usa

                                          #120
                                          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                          Just tested again. 15.2 and 24.7 on the diodes and relay clicking now, however I am only getting .87VDC on the red/black wires and 0 black/white wires on the speed control. Should be 5v red/black and 0-5 on black/white wires.

                                          But what about the -49 on the other filter. Actually I may have marked wire wrong, switched probes and get 49.
                                          Last edited by Crrose; 01-09-2015, 06:27 PM.

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