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  • dell-usional
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    • Oct 2010
    • 1

    #121
    Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem - and another

    top fix chap, a bit of 2 amp fuse wire done the trick. all hale brian h

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    • coolcurrent
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 98

      #122
      Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

      Hello, my dell flat screen too has this problem. I have read the entire post, but it seems there ins't any particular solution. Can anybody point out which transistor is causing this

      thanks

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      • PlainBill
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        • Feb 2009
        • 7034
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        #123
        Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

        Originally posted by coolcurrent
        Hello, my dell flat screen too has this problem. I have read the entire post, but it seems there ins't any particular solution. Can anybody point out which transistor is causing this

        thanks
        1. The problem is not caused by a transistor. The problem is caused by bad solder joints on the transformers.
        2. There are two identical circuits for each inverter. Either (or both) transformer can have bad solder joints. Usually only one pair of transistors fail.
        3. You need an ohmmeter to determine which transistors are shorted.
        4. If you replace the transistors without resoldering the transformers the new transistors will also fail.
        5. Several different boards were used in each model of the monitor. Without determining which version you have, it is impossible to give you a location number.
        6. There are pictures of some of the different versions of the board in this thread. Since you were unable to identify which one you have, a picture of YOUR monitor will be necessary. See my signature for information on taking and attaching one.

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        • coolcurrent
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 98

          #124
          Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

          my monitor model is E153FPb. one unique thing about mine is that you have to whop the monitor on the back, then it will come on and work just fine. then after powering off for long hours, the cycle restarts again
          Last edited by coolcurrent; 11-10-2010, 06:55 AM.

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          • PlainBill
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            • Feb 2009
            • 7034
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            #125
            Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

            Originally posted by coolcurrent
            my monitor model is E153FPb
            BFD!!! I had assumed you were smart enough to post in a thread that was related to your monitor. That STILL doesn't tell me what power supply / inverter board Dell happened to use in it!!! It is easy to identify the likely defective parts by looking at the board, I know of no way to do so without opening up the monitor.

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            • coolcurrent
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              • Oct 2010
              • 98

              #126
              Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

              Originally posted by PlainBill
              BFD!!! I had assumed you were smart enough to post in a thread that was related to your monitor. That STILL doesn't tell me what power supply / inverter board Dell happened to use in it!!! It is easy to identify the likely defective parts by looking at the board, I know of no way to do so without opening up the monitor.

              PlainBill
              Here is the board picture
              Attached Files

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              • smason
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                • Feb 2010
                • 1652
                • Canada

                #127
                Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                Originally posted by coolcurrent
                Here is the board picture
                Seems obvious to me, between reading the rest of this thread, the fact that if you whack the monitor it comes on, and from that (not terribly good) picture.

                BAD SOLDER JOINTS
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                • PlainBill
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                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7034
                  • USA

                  #128
                  Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                  Originally posted by coolcurrent
                  Here is the board picture
                  Good grief, couldn't you make it smaller? Fortunately I was able to match it to a real picture.

                  Large blue circles - transformers with bad solder joints. Remove as much solder as possible from the pins and resolder

                  Red circles - bipolar transistors (2SC5706 or 5707). Test and replace both if either transistor in a pair is shorted.

                  Small blue circles - FET transistors, one for each pair of bipolar transistors. Sometimes fail when the bipolar transistors fail. Test and replace if shorted.

                  Yellow circle. Picofuse. Test and replace if open.

                  PlainBill
                  Attached Files
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                  • alexanna
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1346

                    #129
                    Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                    The2 gray capacitors in the area of PlainBills Red circles are known for poor solder joints also. If you gently wiggle them sometimes you will see the solder move.
                    Al.
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                    • coolcurrent
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 98

                      #130
                      Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                      thanks for the fast response, i'll do my homework and give feed back tomorrow.

                      without a sucker, which method is best for removing components with a soldering iron, i presently use brush with trimmed tips, but the brush seems to go bad quickly after few uses

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                      • coolcurrent
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 98

                        #131
                        Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                        Originally posted by PlainBill
                        Good grief, couldn't you make it smaller? Fortunately I was able to match it to a real picture.

                        Large blue circles - transformers with bad solder joints. Remove as much solder as possible from the pins and resolder

                        Red circles - bipolar transistors (2SC5706 or 5707). Test and replace both if either transistor in a pair is shorted.

                        Small blue circles - FET transistors, one for each pair of bipolar transistors. Sometimes fail when the bipolar transistors fail. Test and replace if shorted.

                        Yellow circle. Picofuse. Test and replace if open.

                        PlainBill
                        Hello, thanks i solved the problem by just entirety de-soldering the two transformers you mentioned and re-soldering them again.

                        i will be watching it for a day or two

                        thanks

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                        • PlainBill
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                          • Feb 2009
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                          #132
                          Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                          Originally posted by coolcurrent
                          Hello, thanks i solved the problem by just entirety de-soldering the two transformers you mentioned and re-soldering them again.

                          i will be watching it for a day or two

                          thanks
                          Cool!!! You might also consider buying a lottery ticket. You might get lucky twice. Not only was the problem easy to fix, but nothing was damaged.

                          PlainBill
                          For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

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                          • josh_zedlav
                            New Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2

                            #133
                            Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                            Hi Folks I'm New here I need help regarding may Dell E153FB.. I've been working on my monitor for almost 3 days.. I tried all i have read from this forum like changing the 4 transistors, resoldering the transformers and other components, and changing the fuse.. It's just that it still keep on turning on and off.. Any possible solution you can give guys? thanks in advance

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                            • Welchs101
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                              • Sep 2008
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                              #134
                              Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                              Have you checked the "bulbs"?

                              If its turning on and then abruptly turning off then you might want to check the bulbs.

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                              • retiredcaps
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9271

                                #135
                                Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                                Originally posted by josh_zedlav
                                It's just that it still keep on turning on and off.
                                How long does it stay on? 2 seconds? 2 minutes? 2 hours?
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                                • EGuevarae
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                                  #136
                                  Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                                  Originally posted by josh_zedlav
                                  Hi Folks I'm New here I need help regarding may Dell E153FB.. I've been working on my monitor for almost 3 days.. I tried all i have read from this forum like changing the 4 transistors, resoldering the transformers and other components, and changing the fuse.. It's just that it still keep on turning on and off.. Any possible solution you can give guys? thanks in advance
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                                  • josh_zedlav
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                                    • Feb 2011
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                                    #137
                                    Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                                    hi tnx for the reply.. can you tell what is the proper way of checking the bulbs? another problem i encountered is that I cannot push the button while the lcd is on this mode.. It only took seconds to turn on and off.. then long minutes on then off again

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                                    • rukirie
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                                      • Feb 2011
                                      • 2

                                      #138
                                      Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                                      Hi all,

                                      I just wanted to share my experience:

                                      My father-in-law had a Dell 153FPB that 'died', i.e. had no backlight.
                                      I saw it flash a bit when I plugged it in so I decided to google a bit to see if these things had a common point of failure (usually bad caps in my experience).

                                      Fortunately, I read this forum and that pointed my attention to the PF751 fuse, not very obvious for an amateur like me I must confess.

                                      I measured great resistance over the PF751 fuse, an indication of a blown fuse, so I replaced it with a 2A slowblow fuse and lo and behold!
                                      We have a backlit image again! I hope the new fuse holds.

                                      Thanks for the groundbreaking work,

                                      Eric Benedikz

                                      ps.saw this picture of the culprit:
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...g=Dell+E153FPB

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                                      • PlainBill
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                                        • Feb 2009
                                        • 7034
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                                        #139
                                        Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                                        Originally posted by rukirie
                                        Hi all,

                                        I just wanted to share my experience:

                                        My father-in-law had a Dell 153FPB that 'died', i.e. had no backlight.
                                        I saw it flash a bit when I plugged it in so I decided to google a bit to see if these things had a common point of failure (usually bad caps in my experience).

                                        Fortunately, I read this forum and that pointed my attention to the PF751 fuse, not very obvious for an amateur like me I must confess.

                                        I measured great resistance over the PF751 fuse, an indication of a blown fuse, so I replaced it with a 2A slowblow fuse and lo and behold!
                                        We have a backlit image again! I hope the new fuse holds.

                                        Thanks for the groundbreaking work,

                                        Eric Benedikz

                                        ps.saw this picture of the culprit:
                                        Important!!! Resolder all inverter transformers or you will be replacing the fuse again. And some transistors.

                                        For future reference, note the links in my signature on the proper way to attach pictures.

                                        PlainBill
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                                        • EGuevarae
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                                          #140
                                          Re: Dell E153FPB Back Light problem

                                          Originally posted by rukirie
                                          I measured great resistance over the PF751 fuse, an indication of a blown fuse, ...
                                          ???
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