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  • jetadm123
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 2169

    #41
    Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

    Diode D28 located right above the voltage regulator, what is that brownish color on it?

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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #42
      Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

      You can narrow down the problem by disconnecting all your boards and hooking up the ccfls to the power board. Then apply 3V to the BL_ON pin using a CR2032 battery or two AA batteries in series.

      If the backlight comes on, then you know the problem is somewhere on the main board. If the backlight does not come on, you know the problem is in the inverter section. If the mosfets are good, it could be the inverter pwm chip?
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      • maybenever
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 158
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

        Originally posted by jetadm123
        Diode D28 located right above the voltage regulator, what is that brownish color on it?
        Don't know, I'll check it out.

        You can narrow down the problem by disconnecting all your boards and hooking up the ccfls to the power board. Then apply 3V to the BL_ON pin using a CR2032 battery or two AA batteries in series.

        If the backlight comes on, then you know the problem is somewhere on the main board. If the backlight does not come on, you know the problem is in the inverter section. If the mosfets are good, it could be the inverter pwm chip?
        I'll try this ASAP. Thanks.

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #44
          Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

          On the power supply fuse F203 can you test the voltage on each side .
          Meter on 20vdc black lead on ground red on each end of fuse. CARE do not touch the heatsink.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • maybenever
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 158
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

            Originally posted by selldoor
            On the power supply fuse F203 can you test the voltage on each side .
            Meter on 20vdc black lead on ground red on each end of fuse. CARE do not touch the heatsink.
            I've checked voltage on both those fuses. I can't remember which is which, but one was 14.5v and the other was 4.98v. I've never checked a "should be" 5v pin that didn't check at least 5.1v to 5.5v. Wonder why this 5v is a little less?

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            • maybenever
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 158
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

              Originally posted by retiredcaps
              You can narrow down the problem by disconnecting all your boards and hooking up the ccfls to the power board. Then apply 3V to the BL_ON pin using a CR2032 battery or two AA batteries in series.

              If the backlight comes on, then you know the problem is somewhere on the main board. If the backlight does not come on, you know the problem is in the inverter section. If the mosfets are good, it could be the inverter pwm chip?
              Connected 3v to BL_ON pin and got nothing. Connected 5v to BL_ON pin and got nothing. I'm about ready to remove the good caps off this thing and move on.

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              • Rtech
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jul 2010
                • 1095

                #47
                Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                Originally posted by maybenever
                Connected 3v to BL_ON pin and got nothing. Connected 5v to BL_ON pin and got nothing. I'm about ready to remove the good caps off this thing and move on.
                Perhap a silly question BUT we all make errors occasionally...I assume that when you applied the voltage btween the BL_On pin and GND...you did have the mains Power switched on ??

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                • maybenever
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 158
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                  Originally posted by Rtech
                  Perhap a silly question BUT we all make errors occasionally...I assume that when you applied the voltage btween the BL_On pin and GND...you did have the mains Power switched on ??
                  Yes, I had the AC power cord connected. When I was checking the MOSFETs, I was told to set my mm to 200ohm, but I got out of range readings, I had to go to 20k to get readings, is that right?

                  Measured mosfets Q5 & Q6, part # K3615 7F. With meter set on 20k, pin 1 to 2 = starts at zero and just keeps climbing, pin 1 to 3 = 5.64, pin 2 to 3 = 2.66. Both parts test the same.

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                  • selldoor
                    Slow Learner
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7870

                    #49
                    Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                    Originally posted by maybenever
                    Yes, I had the AC power cord connected. When I was checking the MOSFETs, I was told to set my mm to 200ohm, but I got out of range readings, I had to go to 20k to get readings, is that right?
                    Yes that is correct. The test is only for shorts so a reading of less than 30
                    ohms may be a short. More than 200 should be ok so as long as it is over 200 ohms that is all that is required.
                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                    • Rtech
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1095

                      #50
                      Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                      Originally posted by maybenever
                      Yes, I had the AC power cord connected. When I was checking the MOSFETs, I was told to set my mm to 200ohm, but I got out of range readings, I had to go to 20k to get readings, is that right?
                      It may be right,BUT I have exactly the same Board,in my case working,and measuring resistance between Pins 1 and 3,on Q5 and Q6,and irrespective of which way around you have the neg and pos leads of your meter,I get in excess of 10KΩ,so suggest you try again !!

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                      • jetadm123
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 2169

                        #51
                        Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                        Here's what I see so far:

                        1) the main doesn't seem to output a constant BL_ON voltage.

                        2) you can't get the backlights to turn oun even with an external power source.

                        3) the mosfets are questionable.

                        4) the power supply seems to output the proper 5V and 12V.

                        bad ccfl(s)? bad mosfet? short on mainboard?

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                        • maybenever
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 158
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                          Originally posted by jetadm123
                          Here's what I see so far:

                          1) the main doesn't seem to output a constant BL_ON voltage.

                          2) you can't get the backlights to turn oun even with an external power source.

                          3) the mosfets are questionable.

                          4) the power supply seems to output the proper 5V and 12V.

                          bad ccfl(s)? bad mosfet? short on mainboard?
                          Right, maybe all the above. I've got the backlight assy. removed, connected to a working mainboard, no light. Those mosfets, I check them with 200k range on the DMM, 9.8k reading. 20k range, 5.64k reading, that's -lead on pin 1, +lead on pin 3. My meter is good, I can test a 10k resistor on 200k range, I get 9.8k reading, 20k range, I get 9.84k reading, so the meter is working OK, right. It don't make sense to me. Anyway, putting this project in the experence folder and moving on. Thanks to all.

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                          • maybenever
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 158
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Proview PL926Wbi, no power

                            A correction, that "good" board I tested my ccfls with, in fact was not working I guess. It was out of a working monitor with a small problem, so I was going to recap it and put it back together which I did. Before puting the back on, I connected the Proview lamps, I'll be dog, they both work. So now I have working lamps for future testing.

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