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  • newbie1
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2010
    • 269

    #21
    Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

    Update :

    I desoldered the IC101 & in the process destroyed the legs of it. Managed to read the marking on it using a microscope, albeit the difficulty, and Jet is right. It is marked FAN7602 although the marking is a bit difficult to see.

    I managed to get 2 pieces of FAN7602C from a local store. I also bought 2 pieces of Mosfet 7N65C just in case. Replaced the FAN7602C only and monitor works well for 2-3 hours. Voltage across the startup cap, I remembered measuring, was 11-12V stable and all the secondary voltages were there. I kept it on standby overnight and when the next morning comes, the monitor is behaving as it originally came (No power LED). Sigh! I dissembled again and this time I measured that voltage across the startup cap is now 35V?!

    Do you think the newly replaced IC101 FAN7602C is faulty again? Any other opinions?

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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #22
      Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

      Originally posted by newbie1
      I dissembled again and this time I measured that voltage across the startup cap is now 35V?!
      35V is way too high. The IC101 can only take 20V maximum according to the datasheet. The IC101 is now in OVP (over-voltage protection). It shuts down when VCC reaches 19V.

      Do you think the newly replaced IC101 FAN7602C is faulty again? Any other opinions?
      1) You never did answer if D103 was shorted out of circuit or not. You may want to recheck all your diodes in case one is shorted.

      2) Check your soldering on IC101.

      3) See if C02, C10, C11 (by IC101) are shorted or possibly damaged from your soldering.
      Last edited by retiredcaps; 07-17-2012, 11:07 PM.
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      • retiredcaps
        Badcaps Legend
        • Apr 2010
        • 9271

        #23
        Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

        Originally posted by newbie1
        and Jet is right.
        Was there any doubt?
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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #24
          Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

          Originally posted by newbie1

          I measured that voltage across the startup cap is now 35V?!
          You did have your meter on vDC?
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • newbie1
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2010
            • 269

            #25
            Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

            Originally posted by retiredcaps
            35V is way too high. The IC101 can only take 20V maximum according to the datasheet. The IC101 is now in OVP (over-voltage protection). It shuts down when VCC reaches 19V.
            1) You never did answer if D103 was shorted out of circuit or not. You may want to recheck all your diodes in case one is shorted.

            2) Check your soldering on IC101.

            3) See if C02, C10, C11 (by IC101) are shorted or possibly damaged from your soldering.
            Agree with you. But i am confused what makes it jumps so high now.

            1) .. Sorry. Age is catching up.. heez.
            D103 (OOC) reads (on diode option) 664 and out of range when probe is reversed.

            2) Done it. But could not see any shorting. Verified by using the multimeter resistance option as well

            3) Visual check observed they are not destroyed. Measurement in diode option reads
            C02 - 570, out of range
            C10 - 645, 1097
            C11 - 787, out of range
            Hopefully they are fine because i have no way to tell what their capacitance value are.

            Originally posted by retiredcaps
            Was there any doubt?
            as usual.... ..

            Originally posted by selldoor
            You did have your meter on vDC?
            Yes sir!.. was turned to DC..

            Just to note that i have bought another spare IC101 (FAN7602).. worth a try to replace it again?. Or do you guys think that it is a waste of time to do so..

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            • jetadm123
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 2169

              #26
              Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

              I had to do a little homework on this one. Apparently, there are 2 versions of the FAN7602, FAN7602B and FAN7602C. FAN7602B has a fixed switching frequency of 65kHz, while the FAN7602C is not fixed. I believe you should be using the FAN7602B, since many of the power supplies use a fixed frequency controller chip.

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              • newbie1
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Apr 2010
                • 269

                #27
                Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

                Jet, appreciate your time & effort. I believe this should be the one that i have to order. If that is the case, then looks like this project need to be stored in the 'freezer' for 2-3 weeks till the parts becomes available.

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                • haresh21
                  make
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3
                  • india

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

                  change the optocoupler with TL431 transister i sure. and repair this.

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                  • newbie1
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 269

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung T240 No power. No Power Led turning on

                    Hey guys.
                    Just to update that i did not yet buy the FAN7602B as suggested. I decided to replace the MOSFET 7n65c first before purchasing them. Upon further close-up inspection, i saw a dead tiny insect caught in between the back of the drain pin of the Mosfet to the heatsink. I am not sure whether that is the cause of the failure, but once i replaced the Mosfet the monitor works fine. I have stable 12v across the startup cap and it has been running for a few days without any hiccups... yet.

                    My thanks to the usual reliable 'gurus'.. Jetadm, Retiredcaps, Selldoor & Rtech..

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