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  • Freezer
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 124

    #1

    Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

    The patient is a Sceptre X9G NagaV monitor that does not power on. This monitor is a 19" flat panel with CCFL back lighting. It has both DVI and VGA inputs. Before even opening the monitor I suspect bad caps on the power board.

    After opening the back off the monitor I was surprised to see the layout. Instead of a video board on the right side, the DVI and VGA connectors were cables running to the video board under a metal plate. Just a different design from the typical.

    Focusing on the power/inverter board, I immediately see two bulging caps. The bulging caps were 1000uF/16V. Even though I have an ESR meter, I decided to just replace all caps on the power/inverter board. The full list of caps on the power/inverter board:

    1000uF/16V (2x)
    470uF/35V (2x)
    220uF/25V (5x)
    10uF/50V (1x)

    I replaced all the caps with Panasonic FM and FC series caps. The board was very easy to work with. Desoldering the caps was very easy. After replacing the caps and putting the monitor back together it powers up just fine.
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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

    It looks like the T-con and main board have been integrated into one single board, which is bonded to the LCD, making it non-replaceable and difficult to repair.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • jetadm123
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 2169

      #3
      Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

      If you can remove the metal cover/plate, it might show the mainboard as a separate board.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

        oops.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • tmon
          New Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 1
          • usa

          #5
          Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

          Caps on this one look good, and other suggestions?

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          • sirswears
            Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 10
            • US

            #6
            Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

            so i have a similar problem i removed the two 1000 microfarad caps from the top right section and im going to replace them soon but my board appears to have had an additional red ceramic capacitor with a pink resistor right next to it near the two common mode choke coils does anyone know the appropriate vales are this info would be much appreciated

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            • selldoor
              Slow Learner
              • Dec 2010
              • 7870

              #7
              Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

              Pictures?
              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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              • sirswears
                Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 10
                • US

                #8
                Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                here is an update on my issue this discussion mentions my problem as well

                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7523

                i'm missing the Red ceramic capacitor and the pink resistor at C65 and R88
                they've blown clean off




                http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCEPTRE-X9G-...-/121338172825

                this is what it's suppose to look like
                Attached Files
                Last edited by sirswears; 11-18-2014, 10:25 PM. Reason: added link showing missing pieces

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                  Can we see good clear pictures of the bottom side of the board so we can determine the functions of those two components?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • sirswears
                    Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 10
                    • US

                    #10
                    Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                    I'm sorry i was lucky to get the pics i did what about the pic from the ebay link does that work OK

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                      I just need to see the bottom side so I can trace out the connections.
                      This is what I can do if I have good pictures:
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...9&postcount=12
                      Last edited by budm; 11-18-2014, 11:39 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • sirswears
                        Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 10
                        • US

                        #12
                        Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                        I can't get it right now i don't have access to a good enough camera but i'm sure i can get the pictures by tomorrow

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                        • sirswears
                          Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 10
                          • US

                          #13
                          Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                          this is what i can do for now i'll try better later if you need it
                          Attached Files

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                            Please take the straight shot of the board in that area where the cap and the resistor are, and please make sure it is in focus.
                            So far the cap and the resistor look like they are for the RC snubber network for the power MOSFET that drives the power transformer. You will need to check that MOSFET to see if it is damaged or not.
                            Last edited by budm; 11-19-2014, 09:59 AM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                            Comment

                            • selldoor
                              Slow Learner
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7870

                              #15
                              Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                              Stumbled across this - dont think its relevant to current discussion and may of course vary from board to board but may help someone sometime.
                              IP-BOARD MODEL: HOAU462001 REV. 1.2

                              C5 / C12 = 1000uFx16V

                              C6 = 220uFx25V substituir por 1000uFx16V ********

                              C11 / C13 = 470uFx35V

                              Q1 = 2SK2996

                              Q11 / Q13 = AOD408 (MOSFET Canal N)

                              Q10 / Q12 = AOD405 (MOSFET Canal P)

                              U1 = SG6841 (Green-mode PWM Controller)

                              U2 / U3 = KA431

                              U6 = BIT3193G

                              T2 = Transtek TMS91205CT
                              -------------------------------

                              ******** no idea what that means but doesnt sound like a good idea
                              Last edited by selldoor; 11-19-2014, 11:29 AM.
                              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                              • sirswears
                                Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 10
                                • US

                                #16
                                Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                                these looked good on the phone i used hopefully they look ok to use how do you get the zoom in functionality on this forum
                                Attached Files
                                Last edited by sirswears; 11-19-2014, 08:47 PM.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                                  OK, it is for sure the RCD are the snubber network, the problem now is to find out the value of those two components.
                                  So the burnt parts are completely destroyed? I expect the resistor to be in 100K or more, and the cap to be around 200~1500pf range, see example circuit.
                                  But at this point you need to check the resistance between:
                                  G & S
                                  G & D
                                  D & S
                                  Attached Files
                                  Last edited by budm; 11-19-2014, 10:56 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • sirswears
                                    Member
                                    • Nov 2014
                                    • 10
                                    • US

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                                    ya the resistor and the cap are gone i read somewhere they like to either burn up completely or explode i found nothing resembling them at all when i first opened the monitor

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                                    • selldoor
                                      Slow Learner
                                      • Dec 2010
                                      • 7870

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                                      Ok so if some monitors dont have these and work maybe yours should still work
                                      without them?
                                      Have you done any other tests? eg if you just plug in the power supply do you
                                      get any voltage on the BIG cap. - Test with care meter on 600vdc.
                                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                      • sirswears
                                        Member
                                        • Nov 2014
                                        • 10
                                        • US

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sceptre X9G NagaV - does not power on

                                        well generally if there are differences in power/main boards in the same model of monitor it's for a good reason i'd put money on a board without the two items i need not working with my monitor also i still need to find apropriate replacements for the two 1000uf 16 volt capacitors if anyone has suggestions it would be much appreciated also budm how do i test those points i don't know if i even have the right kind of volt meter mine doesn't measure microfarads
                                        Last edited by sirswears; 11-20-2014, 09:24 AM.

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