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    Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

    Hello all,

    I'm so glad to have found this forum. Looks like a great place to hang out and learn a great many things!

    I come to you with a misbehaving Samsung SyncMaster T240. As I understand, this is a common issue. I'm just looking for a little advice.

    I've pulled it apart and compared the power/inverter board with that of another ancient T240 thread on here (that didn't seem to get resolved, that one).

    It looks very much the same - there's a browning around the transformer/cap area in the same place as these other boards I've seen. From what I understand, this can be due to normal heating in operation.

    I'm not sold that it's a blown transformer. A pic of a blown transformer on this board looks greatly different, and I've attached one below (the first image with camera flash on. As you can see, my own doesn't look at all like that. Neither did those from the other threads).

    I've confirmed one of the two CCFL output sockets is dead. Using the top CCFL cable from the panel, if I plug it into the "bottom" channel, it lights up, waits two seconds, then shuts off. If I plug it into the "top" channel (where it is supposed to be) nothing lights up at all. This means both sets of CCFLs are working (the bottom set of CCFLs were the ones that came on and off originally, so if the top work too...), thus the problem is with the board.

    So... what to do? Should I change those purple caps by the transformer? They don't look bad at all, which is why I'm confused.

    It's been a hot few months though, and I reckon the high temperature pushed the board over the edge. I'm hoping the caps have just died on me and I can change them, but I'd rather know if I'm looking in the wrong place before I start making changes. The less I fiddle with the board, the better!

    Thanks for your time!


    EDIT: Oops, just saw this thread where a helpful chap said if the secondaries on the transformer were off in resistance then it was probably blown.

    I had a go, and got 1.3Kohm on the secondary coil connected to the channel which isn't working, and roughly 0.93Kohm on the secondary for the channel where everything worked.

    I haven't removed the transformer - could these readings simply be due to it still being connected to other stuff in the board? I hope so. Capacitors are easier to get hold of then one of these flippin' things...
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    Last edited by r00x; 09-03-2011, 04:06 PM.

    #2
    Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

    There's nothing attached to the inverter transformer secondaries that would distort the ohm readings. But if you're concerned there might be, remove the transformer and test it out of circuit. Has to be removed to be replaced anyway.

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      #3
      Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

      Hey r00x, very interesting that you have the same issue! I just posted today with the same device!

      Yeah, your two coils are pretty different. ~40%, it seems (http://www.csgnetwork.com/percentchangecalc.html).

      For ~10USD and a few weeks of your time, you can do what I did and pick up a new inverter transformer just to see. If it turns out that's not your issue, you can get some new caps and try your luck there. Given what I have seen and heard from other folks, it's probably the former, and not the caps.

      I have also seen a full replacement board for $60, which is certainly less than a new T240 (if you can even find one!).

      My board looked to be in pristine condition. Only after checking the coils did I see mine was blasted wide open...I'd imagine with the way your board looks on the side of the T301, that's probably the culprit.
      Last edited by mucoast; 09-03-2011, 05:29 PM.

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        #4
        Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

        Hi mucoast, it was indeed the transformer!

        Monitor is now up and running ^_^

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          #5
          Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

          Hello every, i have the same problem as most are describing here and i'm sure it is my inverter transformer the TM-10160, but i'm having a lot of trouble trying to find the part TM-10160 in the UK(Ebay gives me a lot of china based shops tried that didn't show up..) - does anyone know where i could get one or does anyone know a part with the same spec i can just use instead?

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            #6
            Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

            I can see that you can get one through Ebay from China for £3.21 including delivery. only down side is that you will have to wait a few weeks for it to arrive.

            Welcome to the forum by the way.
            Fixed so far : 1 Home cinema system, 16 LCD Monitors, 4 LCD TV's

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              #7
              Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

              Originally posted by Jasgriff View Post
              I can see that you can get one through Ebay from China for £3.21 including delivery. only down side is that you will have to wait a few weeks for it to arrive.

              Welcome to the forum by the way.
              I've tried one from China before, but i've found on in Japan as well so i'll give that a try, would still like some help finding one closer to home if anyone knows?

              And thank you this forum seems very helpful and though i would jump on ship.

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                #8
                Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                "and i'm sure it is my inverter transformer the TM-10160,"

                Do you want a second opinion -what tests did you do.

                You only seem able to find these in the UK if someone has bought a pack of 5 or 10 from china and is selling them on ebay at double the price. Occasionally you can get the whole board cheaper but you have the risk of the transformer being duff.
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                  When you say you have tried one from china do you mean you have already tried to replace the transformer before? or do you mean you have ordered something else from China?
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                    Originally posted by Jasgriff View Post
                    When you say you have tried one from china do you mean you have already tried to replace the transformer before? or do you mean you have ordered something else from China?
                    I'm sorry i meant i have tried to order one before and it just didn't show up. I've yet to replace the transformer on the board.

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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                      Is this the test you did: http://lcdparts.net/TransformerDetai...ProductID=2724

                      Myself and another uk badcaps member received transformers from

                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inverter-T...item3a63a06017

                      Monitor-09
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                        Hello,
                        could you explain me how to replace the power inverter? Is it soldered on the board, or there is some easier connection?
                        Kind regards.

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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                          Originally posted by thedarkmist View Post
                          Hello,
                          could you explain me how to replace the power inverter? Is it soldered on the board, or there is some easier connection?
                          Kind regards.
                          Replied on his own thread!
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                            Originally posted by Ictoo View Post
                            Hello every, i have the same problem as most are describing here and i'm sure it is my inverter transformer the TM-10160, but i'm having a lot of trouble trying to find the part TM-10160 in the UK(Ebay gives me a lot of china based shops tried that didn't show up..) - does anyone know where i could get one or does anyone know a part with the same spec i can just use instead?
                            Does anyone know of an equivalent replacement part, maybe two transformers that could replace this double. I've seen a few videos on YouTube that show single transformers that look similar to one of these TM-10160 chopped in half.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOUvLNChGXM this video shows a similar powerboard with two separate transformers.

                            Anyone know the primary to secondary winding ratio or voltage rating.

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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                              Each of the transformers has a Ballast cap/s (the Blue ones)working with it,and trying to find an alternative I doubt is an option,I have tried in the past with no success.The option then is to find the proper one,OR a replacement Board !!!BUT I would put the part number of the one you want plus photos of it top and bottom, and one one the UK based members may well have one.I have lots of Boards and separate transformers,I am sure others have as well,and you might just get lucky.

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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                                Thanks for the quick reply, I'll have a go at sourcing from the ebay seller mentioned above.

                                Originally posted by selldoor View Post
                                Is this the test you did: http://lcdparts.net/TransformerDetai...ProductID=2724

                                Myself and another uk badcaps member received transformers from

                                http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inverter-T...item3a63a06017

                                Monitor-09
                                My transformer is the TM-10160 and seems to work on one side but I can't get any Ohm reading off either coil pair. The tubes light up if connected to the top connection, but then go out quite quickly.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                                  That is not the correct test for the TM 10160 you need to do S1 to S2 and S3 to S4 on this
                                  http://lcdparts.net/TransformerDetai...ProductID=3696
                                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                                    That is the test that I performed. Now that I've taken the part off the circuit board the primary coil reads .3 ohms as per the link on lcdparts.net.

                                    The secondary coils don't register on my DVM on the 200Ohm scale, but read 1046 and 957 when I put it on continuity test??? (BTW just to check a 70 Ohm set of headphones read 74 on the continuity test, so I think the output is Ohms).

                                    Do you reckon this is too out of spec.?

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                                      Hi - Yes it needs to be within 3% though I dont have much faith in your meter.
                                      Does it need a new battery? what did it measure the headphones at when on ohms 200
                                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung SyncMaster T240 2-second backlight problem

                                        Tried a different DVM with a new battery. Now reading 966 and 1063 Ohms for the two secondary coils and 0.4 Ohms for the primary. Seems to be outside the 3% tolerance.

                                        Worth replacing or does this require more investigation?

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