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  • DivanteBlack
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 33

    #1

    Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

    HI, I recently came into ownership of this Gateway 2185w lcd monitor and it did not work when I got it. When I plug it in I get a constant blue power light like my other gateway but I get no picture and unlike my gateway fpd1975w I cannot press this power button and get the blue light to turn on and off. I have already replaced all the caps on the pwer board with theses caps (http://lcdalternatives.auctivacommer...-P1660293.aspx) I dont rember what who manufactures the caps I ordered but I know there not radioshack caps, I do know that they are black and gold with an "M" symbol on them. Either way even after replacing main board caps no pic, Im thinking about replacing video board caps but I would like some advice first before I put more money into this project.
  • retiredcaps
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #2
    Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

    It will help if you post clear focused pictures using the manage attachment function of your boards. We would like pics like this ...

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...94&postcount=1

    Do you have a multimeter? If yes, check the secondary voltages going to the logic board.
    Last edited by retiredcaps; 03-23-2011, 10:19 PM.
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    • PlainBill
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      • Feb 2009
      • 7034
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      #3
      Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

      Originally posted by DivanteBlack
      HI, I recently came into ownership of this Gateway 2185w lcd monitor and it did not work when I got it. When I plug it in I get a constant blue power light like my other gateway but I get no picture and unlike my gateway fpd1975w I cannot press this power button and get the blue light to turn on and off. I have already replaced all the caps on the pwer board with theses caps (http://lcdalternatives.auctivacommer...-P1660293.aspx) I dont rember what who manufactures the caps I ordered but I know there not radioshack caps, I do know that they are black and gold with an "M" symbol on them. Either way even after replacing main board caps no pic, Im thinking about replacing video board caps but I would like some advice first before I put more money into this project.
      Same story, same response. It's hard to give advice without seeing what we're dealing with. Pictures would help.

      It sounds like the caps you received were Panasonic FM series. Good quality, no problems there.

      Note the links in my signature. I would like several pictures. Make them as close to 2000 x 2000 pixels as possible. Use Manage Attachments (below the text entry area) to attach the pictures.

      First, a picture of the back of the monitor with everything connected. Next, pictures of the top and bottom of the power supply, inverter (if it's a separate inverter), and last (and most important), of the top and bottom of the signal (logic) card. While it is possible the caps on the signal card are responsible, it is more likely a voltage regulator has failed.

      PlainBill
      For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

      Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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      • DivanteBlack
        Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 33

        #4
        Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

        Thankyou for speedy reply, I have a few multimeter one fluke 77 III and one Sperry DM-5300. I should be uploading pictures in this post, please excuse bad pic quality or mis-sized pics this is my first post!

        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300942011
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300942041
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300942085
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300942116
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        • retiredcaps
          Badcaps Legend
          • Apr 2010
          • 9271

          #5
          Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

          With your Fluke 77, measure the voltage regulators on the logic card (U15, U16, and U18). Report all the DC voltages.

          There might be another voltage regulator (U17?) just above C100, but with the angle of the pic, I can't be sure.
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          • DivanteBlack
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 33

            #6
            Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

            Yes there is a VR above C100 (called Reg 1) and its got a capacitor soldered to it, dosnt look manufacture installed. Anyway I measured the measurements by A= top and bottom B=Bottom and Middle C= Middle and Top prongs on the regs.

            Reg1 A=5.08V B=3.29v C=1.795v

            U15 A=3.27v B=1.803v C=1.472v

            U16 A=5.08v B=3.29v C=1.795v

            U18 A= 3.26v B=1.806v C=1.457v

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            • retiredcaps
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              • Apr 2010
              • 9271

              #7
              Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

              Okay, now for each voltage regulator, list the part number. The part number will tell you if the voltages are correct or not. For example, the suffix in a part number like AS1117-33 denotes 3.3V DC output. AS1117-18 would denote 1.8V DC output.

              Your voltage readings look okay because most voltage regulators output 3.3V, 2.5V, 1.8V DC. However, you must compare the output with the part number to ensure it is 100% working.
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              • retiredcaps
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                • Apr 2010
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                #8
                Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                We seem to missing the pic of the board underneath the power/inverter board?
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                • DivanteBlack
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 33

                  #9
                  Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                  Reg 1
                  = FS8860
                  33PJ0072

                  U15
                  =AIC 1084-33PM
                  157C9

                  U16&18
                  = LD1117A
                  L18ASJ

                  is this all you need?

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                  • retiredcaps
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 9271

                    #10
                    Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                    Originally posted by DivanteBlack
                    U15
                    =AIC 1084-33PM
                    157C9

                    U16&18
                    = LD1117A
                    L18ASJ
                    I think you might have a typo? If you look at U15 the output should be 3.3V DC. U16 and U18 denote 1.8V DC. Now look at your DC voltage measurements.
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                    • DivanteBlack
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                      • Feb 2011
                      • 33

                      #11
                      Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                      The underside of the power board is the first pic.
                      Here are the Pics of the underneath of the inverter/logic board.( 4 pic)
                      and a pic of that suspicious cap.

                      and no typo's U15 is putting out 3.3 though.


                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300946776
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300946869
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                      • retiredcaps
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                        • Apr 2010
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                        #12
                        Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                        Originally posted by DivanteBlack
                        and no typo's U15 is putting out 3.3 though.
                        Maybe this will make it easier. You wrote

                        Reg1 (FS8860 33PJ0072) A=5.08V B=3.29v C=1.795v
                        U15 (AIC 1084-33PM) A=3.27v B=1.803v C=1.472v
                        U16 (LD1117A L18ASJ)A=5.08v B=3.29v C=1.795v
                        U18 (LD1117A L18ASJ) A= 3.26v B=1.806v C=1.457v

                        Look at U18. L18ASJ implies 1.8V DC output. B=1.806 which is correct.

                        If the part number for U15 is correct, the voltages for U15 are way off. Same for U16. Now do you see the problem?
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                        • retiredcaps
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                          #13
                          Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                          I mean we are missing a picture of the board circled in yellow.
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                          • DivanteBlack
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                            • Feb 2011
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                            #14
                            Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                            Ok im gonna re-test reg output on U15 and U16 and get those pics for the usb board, wich is what is circled in yellow.

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                            • DivanteBlack
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 33

                              #15
                              Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                              OK, you were corect on the typo[ ], I typed U16 in for U15 and vis versa

                              the correct mes are
                              Reg1 = 3.29
                              U15=3.27
                              U16=1.18
                              U18=1.18

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                              • retiredcaps
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                                Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                                Originally posted by DivanteBlack
                                the correct mes are

                                U16=1.18
                                U18=1.18
                                If U16 and U18 are not typos, 1.18V DC output is too low. It should be outputting 1.8V DC.
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                                • DivanteBlack
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                                  • Feb 2011
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                                  Again correct you are on my typos, they are both 1.806 volts, sorry about my confusion. and heres the pics you asked for.

                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300949234
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1300949234

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                                  • DivanteBlack
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                                    • Feb 2011
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                                    I havent replaced the caps on the video board and I have some Saxmon 470uf 25v's i can put on to test that I stripped of another moniter, the ones I would be replacing are 470uf 16v and I cant tell who makes them but there logo is and H and it green with black strip.

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                                    • PCBONEZ
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                                      Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

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                                      • DivanteBlack
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Gateway FPD 2185w No Picture Con. Blue Pwer Lt

                                        Nope sorry that's not it

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