Dim Clock LCD on Jenn-Air wall oven

[GeorgeT]

My friend brought me over the display control board for his Jenn-Air SVD48600P oven because the display was no longer lighting up. Just like the original post from Bluto, the problem was C3. It measured completely open with my ESR cap meter. What is strange is that the capacitor was a high quality Nichicon. There must be something wrong with the display board circuit to cause such failures. I replaced the 68uF 50 volt cap with a 100uF 50 volt. Thank you bluto for taking the time to document this repair. As you can see in the photo, it's working great now!

[sam_sam_sam]

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I can't believe the ripoff pricing for these oven control boards.

I can not believe the price of control boards in general are a lot higher than they should be

This is the reason I will try to repair one before I would consider buying a new control board for any device

[redwire]

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Let us know what parts you bought... and don't put the new caps in backwards lol. (take pics).
Older beige boards have C3 68uF 35V and missing 27R 3W surge resistor - which gets added during a refurb. Newer boards increased C3 to 220uF. Is this list right:
C3 220uF 35V
C4,C5: 470uF 35VDC
C7 2.2uF 50V
C11 tantalum - people leave it alone

Whirlpool 71001799 Oven Control Board
Whirlpool 71001872 Oven Control Board

I can't believe the ripoff pricing for these oven control boards.

[joltman]

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I also found this thread earlier this year. We have a Maytag MEW6630BAB. A friend was selling his house that had this oven in it. No one was buying the house. The potential buyers all said they wanted stainless appliances in the home. So, my friend went out and bought not as nice stainless appliances. He was going to have Best Buy take them away, but I swooped in and saved this double oven and a Maytag fridge (which now lives in my garage). The kitchen at my house didn't even have a cabinet for a double oven, but my wife and I were patient. We finally got some cash together to update our kitchen. New counter tops, removed old slide in stove and replaced with gas cook top, and a new cabinet for a double oven! I ran the electrical to the panel, installed the breaker in the panel. That oven was sitting in our garage for over 3 years at that point. It worked first try! Oven was doing great for about 6 months, then the display went very dark. Oven still works. Today, I finally found the motivation to crack open the front panel (much easier than I had feared, just 4 screws under the front panel). I found that the board is refurbished (confirmed by my friend who replaced the original with this). I've placed the order for the 4 caps. I'll get to mess around with my solder station, which is always fun!

[sam_sam_sam]

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The first picture it looks like there are two caps between the two displays and they look like are swollen at the tops of them it hard to tell from the pictures that you provided but that would be the best place to start if your caps look like them

[JohnJones]

Dim display on Jenn-Air double wall oven

Hi, the display on my JennAir JJW9827DDS double wall oven appears to be dim, so I was looking for ideas on which parts to replace. I found these images of the board from eBay.

[bluto]

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The second very common problem on these stoves is that various functions begin to start up and stop by themselves. Broiler fan starts to run all the time is the usual. I have examined the control pcb minutely and found no obvious part failures. A new control pcb fixes the ghost problems. No differences can be found between a bad board and a good board. Therefore I am 99% sure that the EEPROM on the original control boards also ages (from heat) and the software finally becomes corrupted. Since it is easy to burn an 8 pin EEPROM, I would recommend that someone do just that while your control board is still working.

You could test this theory by dumping the EEPROM on your new board and replacing/flashing the EEPROM on your old board.

[Longbow]

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I see that this specific subject has generated amazing interest over the years. Certainly, replacing electrolytics on the display pcb will bring back the Jenn Air (and others) display brightness.


However...these things are getting old by anyone's standards, so we have to be practical and realize that the VFD (the display tube itself) slowly ages and as it does, it becomes dimmer and dimmer. Nothing can be done about that.



The second very common problem on these stoves is that various functions begin to start up and stop by themselves. Broiler fan starts to run all the time is the usual. I have examined the control pcb minutely and found no obvious part failures. A new control pcb fixes the ghost problems. No differences can be found between a bad board and a good board. Therefore I am 99% sure that the EEPROM on the original control boards also ages (from heat) and the software finally becomes corrupted. Since it is easy to burn an 8 pin EEPROM, I would recommend that someone do just that while your control board is still working.


Then, the next problem worth mentioning is that the front panel membrane strip slowly absorbs grease, spray cleaners, etc. One or more of the functions stop working. The membrane can't be fixed and is no longer available. FYI there are several different part numbers for this membrane. The parts all look alike, but have subtle differences that can prevent them from mounting on your stove.


The final award goes to the burners themselves. The glass-covered heating elements fail after some number of years. The pull-out heating units can't be disassembled without destroying them. It is sometimes possible to find plug in units with coil-style burners. All these parts are quite expensive. Pretty soon, the price of new stove starts looking attractive. Depends upon how creative you want to be.



Good Luck,
Longbow

[redwire]

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That's great, I think some turkey gonna be cooking soon

To summarize, fixing Jenn-Air oven display:
Replace C3 68uF 35V (refurbished/newer boards upsized it to 220uF and added a resistor 27R 3W, for longer life... but they use cheap parts)
Replace C4 470uF 35V

It's a Digi-Key or Mouser parts order for under $20 incl. shipping, to fix an expensive wall-oven, keeping it out of landfill.

[RoadsterZ4]

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Here is a quick pic from this morning. Wife loves it. Just in time for holiday cooking!

Thanks again!

[sam_sam_sam]

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I am glad you got it working again and for the time being it does not end up in the landfill or someplace like that for now

[RoadsterZ4]

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The resistor does not dissipate even 0.5W normally.
I would replace C3 and C4 and test the old parts, one of them should have failed short. That's a bit weird, unless you have high mains voltage or power surges/lightning. I wonder what their operating voltage is. Test diodes D3 and D4 too.

I went down the rabbit hole a little into the circuit. Capacitor C3 feeds C4, so if C3 or C4 fail (low value) it will give a dim display. If either shorts, no display and it would burnt up the resistor.
The board has already been refurb'ed so it will be extra fragile, the PCB pads.

Update:
I received my order from Digikey -- the replacement capacitors. I ordered a few extra caps since I had to pay for shipping anyway

I removed the burnt resistor and 220uf; along with the neighboring 470uf.
Soldered in a new 470uf along with a new 68uf in the C3 position (I had to clean up the joint and contact from the burnt side). All soldered in and tested for continuity.

I reassembled and it works perfectly!! Brighter that it ever has been and all modes work. YAY!!!!!

A huge THANK YOU for all of the great information on this site and the awesome detailed responses from you - the experts. I am very grateful.
I am so glad I took electronics classes in high school back in the late 80s. It made this task a simple one.

I will keep an eye on it and I am hoping it lasts for another 20 years -- but I am sure we will replace it for a bigger and nicer one at some point.

Safe holidays!

[RoadsterZ4]

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Thanks for the feedback. I'll look at it deeper after work in a few days. I'll gather some parts.

[redwire]

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That resistor is burnt badly, kinda puzzled because it means something else has shorted?
Another post shows red as the first stripe. Newer Jenn-Air oven controller boards use: a 27ohm 3W resistor red-violet-black-gold, and 220uF 35V capacitor. Adding the resistor is supposed to give C3 longer life, as well as the upsizing it from 68uF to 220uF. What happened to your board then?

For a suitable 27R 3W resistor, body is about 15mm long, I'd use flameproof safety types: TE RR03J27RTB, TE ROX3SJ27R, Yageo PNP300JR-73-27R, Panasonic ERG-3SJ270 etc.
For a suitable 27R 2W resistor, body is about 11mm long, I'd use flameproof safety types: TE RR02J27RTB, TE ROX2SJ27R, Yageo RSF200JR-73-27R, Panasonic ERG-2SJ270 etc.

The resistor does not dissipate even 0.5W normally.
I would replace C3 and C4 and test the old parts, one of them should have failed short. That's a bit weird, unless you have high mains voltage or power surges/lightning. I wonder what their operating voltage is. Test diodes D3 and D4 too.

I went down the rabbit hole a little into the circuit. Capacitor C3 feeds C4, so if C3 or C4 fail (low value) it will give a dim display. If either shorts, no display and it would burnt up the resistor.
The board has already been refurb'ed so it will be extra fragile, the PCB pads.

[RoadsterZ4]

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Thanks for the feedback. I have attached some pics.
I ordered a couple of the 68, 220…and the other caps (just in case)

Any idea what size resistor that is? Do I even need to replace the resistor with the 220u?

[redwire]

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There are refurbished/reconditioned Jenn-Air oven control boards out there that have an added series resistor at capacitor C3, in an attempt to make C3 last longer by lowering its ripple current. Like pics here:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=126
It looks like 11 ohms and 2W.

If that resistor overheated, then C3 has likely failed. Can you test it or look for signs of bulging, leaking etc. It is OK to upsize the part from 68uF to 100uF, I would say 220uF is a bit much but I have not measured the actual circuit.

[sam_sam_sam]

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Recommend that you replace the capacitor in question just because it might look okay dose not mean that it is okay replace the resistor and see if the display comes back on if it does not then the display might gone as well these display type as they age they draw more current on the plate heater current and eventually burn out and when this happens it time for a new display or a new controller

[RoadsterZ4]

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Thread bump;
Hello all. I need some help. I have a Jennair wall oven. The display has faded to nothing but the oven works fine. I have read on the previous posts about the c3 ECapacitor.

Upon inspection I found the c3 with a resistor soldered in line that is then soldered to the board. the cap is a 220uf 35v; The obvious problem is the resistor has failed and overheated, and popped off the solder from the board (burnt mark also there).
The resistor overheat has made the stripes unreadable.

I am not sure why there is a 220uf in that location. Is this the reason for the resistor to pull it down to 68uf ?!?!
The 220uf doesn't look damaged.
All of the references in this thread say that it is supposed to be a 68uf 35v. Should I just replace it with a 68 and clean up the terminal and install?
I appreciate your help -- trying to get the screen to work before we have family over for Christmas dinners! :o

[jetadm123]

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Sure you didn't install the cap backwards?

[redwire]

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There might be a cold solder joint on the board for the VFD display tube filaments.
You bumped it changing the cap. Sometimes doing a repair breaks other things.
Either that or your cap replacement did not work out, something went wrong.