Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

    Yep, that spark will inject the spike into the power line and it also generate an RF Radiate noise that travel through the AIR that can be easily be picked up by high impedance input circuits such as audio pre-amp input section of the amplifier.
    Like I said, you need to check and see if there is any snubber network on the relay/switch for the controlling the compressor. Also best to reduce the noise at the noise source.
    I doubt that cheaply made fridge will have any EMI filter in it. We had just spent $6000 for EMI test for one little product that has switching power supply and 16MHz Xtal for the processor.
    Radiate noise will be harder to control due to wide bandwidth of the noise.
    Last edited by budm; 11-11-2012, 09:05 PM.
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    • Pentium4
      CapXon Be Gone
      • Sep 2011
      • 3741
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

      I think it is broadcasting RF because music on the pathetic little Dell speakers sounds more distorted when the fridge is running.

      This morning....I woke up and found my computer off, which I don't think is good....I leave it on 24/7, I unplugged it and now I'm scared to plug it back in when I get home!!!

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      • Pentium4
        CapXon Be Gone
        • Sep 2011
        • 3741
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

        Son of a bitch....My computer will only turn on for about 3 seconds and shut down

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        • ben7
          Capaholic
          • Jan 2011
          • 4059
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

          Originally posted by Pentium4
          Son of a bitch....My computer will only turn on for about 3 seconds and shut down
          PSU?

          Shorted mobo?

          Open it up, and see what it looks like inside!
          Muh-soggy-knee

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          • Pentium4
            CapXon Be Gone
            • Sep 2011
            • 3741
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

            The mobo flashes red and makes a loud tick before it shuts off, do you think it is a coincidence or not with the fridge?

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            • ben7
              Capaholic
              • Jan 2011
              • 4059
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

              Originally posted by Pentium4
              The mobo flashes red and makes a loud tick before it shuts off, do you think it is a coincidence or not with the fridge?
              Hm, It is hard to say, but I think the fridge did not cause it.

              Where is the tick coming from? and arc? or an on-board speaker (like, the liiiiiittle black ones)?
              Muh-soggy-knee

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              • westom
                Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 40

                #27
                Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

                Originally posted by Pentium4
                The mobo flashes red and makes a loud tick before it shuts off, do you think it is a coincidence or not with the fridge?
                An honest answer must first identify the defect. Nobody can say what is defective without specific numbers. To have the defect identified and problem solved in the next post means buying or borrowing a multimeter. Typically $5 or $18 in any layman's store including Harbor Freight, Wal-Mart, and K-Mart. More expensive ones in Radio Shack, Home Depot, Lowes and Sears.

                One minute of labor; taking numbers from six wires (and not disconnecting anything) means a definitive answer. To both identify a defect and to answer your refrigerator question.

                The other alternative is to just start replacing good parts until something works. Also called shotgunning.

                Almost no defects provide a visual indication. Observing without a cheap and simple tool (multimeter) is typically fruitless. But your choice. Get numbers to have all questions answers. Shotgun. Or hope to 'see' a failure.

                Some background. A power controller decides when the PSU powers on and off. A controller powered on the computer. Three seconds later, powered the PSU off. Why? What is it seeing? Or is that controller defective? Your symptoms are classic of decisions made by that controller. Numbers would say more.

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                • Pentium4
                  CapXon Be Gone
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3741
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

                  The tick is coming from the power supply...But the fan continues to run after it turns off (it's always done that) I could start testing it but I don't have any replacement parts for any of it to test with good components. I'll upload a short little video
                  Last edited by Pentium4; 11-15-2012, 09:05 PM.

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                  • redwire
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 3910
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

                    My fridge was causing power spikes. Tried MOV's across power which helped with the voltage spike but the EMI was still a problem for stereos and telephone.
                    I added 0.033uF 1kV cap across the fridge's thermostat and that cured it.

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                    • ben7
                      Capaholic
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 4059
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

                      Originally posted by redwire
                      My fridge was causing power spikes. Tried MOV's across power which helped with the voltage spike but the EMI was still a problem for stereos and telephone.
                      I added 0.033uF 1kV cap across the fridge's thermostat and that cured it.
                      Good job!

                      Muh-soggy-knee

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                      • westom
                        Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 40

                        #31
                        Re: Think my fridge might be causing small power spikes?

                        Originally posted by redwire
                        My fridge was causing power spikes. Tried MOV's across power which helped with the voltage spike but the EMI was still a problem for stereos and telephone.
                        I added 0.033uF 1kV cap across the fridge's thermostat and that cured it.
                        Which confirms what was posted previously.
                        Originally posted by ben7
                        You guys keep thinking this is an issue with surges, but it isn't.
                        The sparks - when the compressor relay closes and opens its' contacts - make RF interference which travels through the AC wires in your house.
                        Originally posted by westom
                        Refrigerator is creating noise. Some also eliminate that noise by modifying the refrigerator (ie an RC snubber on its power switch).

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