100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

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  • kalilinux25
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    • Mar 2018
    • 2069
    • ZAMBOANGA SIBUGAY

    #1

    100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

    Hi I was planning to buy a oscilloscope for laptop board repair do i really need to buy a 200mhz ? or the 100mhz is enough?
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30953
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: 100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

    100Mhz scopes will show a waveform well over 200Mhz, it is just the limit where the readings start to lose accuracy.
    i have seen a Rigol 100Mhz scope display a 350Mhz sinewave before!!

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    • kalilinux25
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      • Mar 2018
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      #3
      Re: 100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

      So your saying that for laptop baoard repair 100mhz will do?

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30953
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: 100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

        no, i dont repair laptops - for all i know you may need 500Mhz
        all i'm saying is a 100Mhz scope will still show 200Mhz waveforms

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        • Curious.George
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          • Nov 2011
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          #5
          Re: 100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

          Originally posted by kalilinux25
          Hi I was planning to buy a oscilloscope for laptop board repair do i really need to buy a 200mhz ? or the 100mhz is enough?
          That depends on what sorts of problems you expect to be capable of diagnosing.

          A power supply can probably be diagnosed with a 10 MHz 'scope. If you want to look at waveforms to/from a bank of DDR3, you'll likely be able to see "activity" with a slow 'scope but won't be able to verify Vhi and Vlo (as well as timing relationships between signals).

          But, chances are, you wouldn't be able to recognize if something was subtly wrong (IME, most problems manifest "spectacularly").

          The bandwidth of the 'scope essentially tells you what sort of an "RC" filter the 'scope represents. As frequencies of observed signals exceed the 'scope's bandwidth, they will be attenuated by this "filter" (as viewed by the 'scope). The more you (think you) need to see those fine details, the more bandwidth you want/need.

          [Often, you can troubleshoot a product with a voltmeter and a logic probe]

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          • CapLeaker
            Leaking Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 8048
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: 100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

            i've only got a 100mhz o'scope and its all i ever needed

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            • Curious.George
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              • Nov 2011
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              Re: 100hmz vs 200mhz oscilloscope

              Originally posted by CapLeaker
              i've only got a 100mhz o'scope and its all i ever needed
              Yup. I have a couple of 2G/s DSOs (500MHz b/w) but only use them to document waveforms (as a DSO, I can retrieve the contents of the waveform memory).

              For more than 4 signals, I drag out a LA for the same goal.

              Things tend to work -- or not.

              OTOH, when you're designing stuff, you want to be able to verify that everything you think SHOULD be happening is actually, in fact, happening. E.g., monitoring the configuration values jammed into the SDRAM to ensure it's operating with the correct refresh interval, bus timing, etc.

              [LA is a real win, there!]

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