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  • eccerr0r
    Solder Sloth
    • Nov 2012
    • 8677
    • USA

    #1

    Signal generators/DDS signal generators

    How many of you have a signal generator and do you use it often, and what for?

    I'm debating whether I should build a small low frequency DDS sig gen, or perhaps even get a calibrated sig gen instead of using the Eico 320 and 324 that I have for radio experiments... They do work, but look at this carrier wave (from my Eico 324, AM internal audio oscillator modulation of its radio frequency oscillator):

    This does work for radio (AM radios can clearly pick it up, and even FM radios depending on detector), alas amplitude is not stable nor is the shape of the wave, as can be seen...

    The envelope of the RF is also supposed to be a sine wave and you can see that the up slope is slower than the down slope; good enough for testing but that's a very distorted sine wave...

    About all I have now, if I need a oscillator, are my Eicos or a 555...
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  • japlytic
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2005
    • 2086
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

    I have a signal generator (for RF with AM/FM modulation) and a function generator (for all other applications including digital logic clocking/gating).
    For a variable AC power supply (normal 50/60Hz or 400Hz mains frequency) made from a modified high power car stereo amplifier, a low cost DDS sinewave generator I constructed from an eBay ATMEGA16 kit (note the ATMEGA16 is preprogrammed and code protected) fits the bill nicely.
    My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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    • eccerr0r
      Solder Sloth
      • Nov 2012
      • 8677
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

      Hmm... currently playing with a cheapo DDS software for an AT90s2313 (since I have a pile of them...) Doesn't get fast and doesn't have adjustable amplitude. Wondering if I should get a real DDS/function generator that has both, and something that is or can be calibrated...

      Part of the issue is trying to get a scope calibrated... Alas, bad when you don't have a good standard. Right now I'm basing calibration on an out of calibration Fluke 77.

      I have a pile of crystal oscillators for digital logic but of course I can't adjust them, other than swapping another one in... An arbitrary function generator would be nice

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30944
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

        there is probably a project you can build based on STM32, that is the cpu of choice now.

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        • eccerr0r
          Solder Sloth
          • Nov 2012
          • 8677
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

          There are some dedicated DDS chips out there like the AD9915 from Analog Devices that could do the same without writing custom code...

          oh boy, did not realize that DDS has gotten this fast already...

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          • diif
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2014
            • 6978
            • England

            #6
            Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

            I was looking at these yesterday. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DDS-V2-0-Fun...-/321820490275

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            • eccerr0r
              Solder Sloth
              • Nov 2012
              • 8677
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

              We know any DDS that includes the "ECG" waveform is just a toy. At 1BPS^H^H^H^H^H 1 Hz, it was meant for roll mode DSOs to make sure they're alive...

              I just overclocked my 10MHz AVR being used for DDS to 14.31818 MHz as it was the only sane crystal I have on hand... surprised, 43% overclock... and it still works...

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30944
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

                why surprised?
                unless it's an "L" part it will be rated at 16 or 20MHz

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                • eccerr0r
                  Solder Sloth
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 8677
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

                  It's a older AT90S2313-10PI (NOT a Tiny2313).

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30944
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

                    i was expecting a MEGA series!

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                    • danito
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 844
                      • Romania

                      #11
                      Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/25MHz-Dual-c...-/400976855749

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                      • eccerr0r
                        Solder Sloth
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 8677
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Signal generators/DDS signal generators

                        I know this AT90S2313 "homemade" DDS I have is very jittery due to software design, I wonder how good the other AVR DDS's fare in terms of jitter.

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