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  • SteveNielsen
    Retired Tech
    • Jun 2012
    • 2327
    • USA

    #81
    Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

    The docs say say something about the ADC can't clock that fast. I think. Also states there a difference between using a sine wave and a square wave, the tester uses square wave.
    Last edited by SteveNielsen; 11-06-2015, 06:05 AM.

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    • ben7
      Capaholic
      • Jan 2011
      • 4059
      • USA

      #82
      Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

      Originally posted by SteveNielsen
      The docs say say something about the ADC can't clock that fast. I think. Also states there a difference between using a sine wave and a square wave, the tester uses square wave.
      Yep, you beat me to it.
      It needs a faster ADC so it can capture the waveform, then calculate the ESR based on voltages and time (I think XD).
      Of course, it could possibly do it with some external circuitry to trigger the ADC when it needs to measure a certain part of the waveform.

      -Ben
      Muh-soggy-knee

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      • SteveNielsen
        Retired Tech
        • Jun 2012
        • 2327
        • USA

        #83
        Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

        Originally posted by ben7
        Yep, you beat me to it.
        It needs a faster ADC so it can capture the waveform, then calculate the ESR based on voltages and time (I think XD).
        Of course, it could possibly do it with some external circuitry to trigger the ADC when it needs to measure a certain part of the waveform.

        -Ben
        Yeah, also something about it taking 1.5 clock cycles of the ADC after the charge is applied and in that time the charge is already decaying in the cap under test. I've been looking at the documentation a bit lately.

        I don't know if ext ckt could speed up the process. I don't know enough about these chips but starting to learn a bit.

        Random thought - what if they could make this thing into a little o-scope? It'd need better graphics but that'd be fun

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        • ben7
          Capaholic
          • Jan 2011
          • 4059
          • USA

          #84
          Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

          Originally posted by SteveNielsen
          Random thought - what if they could make this thing into a little o-scope? It'd need better graphics but that'd be fun
          Oh, plenty of people have done that! Not very good performance, but hey, it can at least give you an idea as to what a signal looks like!


          -Ben
          Muh-soggy-knee

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          • SteveNielsen
            Retired Tech
            • Jun 2012
            • 2327
            • USA

            #85
            Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

            Really? Got links? Yeah, that's all you could expect but an imperfect measurement gives more information than none at all.

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30985
              • Albion

              #86
              Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

              all over ebay.

              btw, you could maybe add an SPI interfaced flash ADC chip.

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              • vinceroger69
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #87
                Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DSO138-2-4...8AAOSw9r1WA5ep

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                • SteveNielsen
                  Retired Tech
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 2327
                  • USA

                  #88
                  Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                  STJ: Do you have wiring diag of the 10 - 6 pin adapter?

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30985
                    • Albion

                    #89
                    Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                    yes

                    attached:
                    the common programmer,
                    the standard header pinouts,

                    and pics of an adapter from ebay - that i dont own btw, just saved the pics.
                    Attached Files

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30985
                      • Albion

                      #90
                      Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                      btw, put something over the display before you solder a header on, so you dont get flux on the panel!

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                      • SteveNielsen
                        Retired Tech
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2327
                        • USA

                        #91
                        Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                        Ok. Will do. Finally ordered the rotary and programmer. I'll scrounge up stuff for the connections. Thanks.

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