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  • SteveNielsen
    Retired Tech
    • Jun 2012
    • 2327
    • USA

    #61
    Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

    I found the same thing on AliExpress:

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-Pi...rchweb201560_4

    I got my tester mounted in a metal half box that came from a dead TV that housed a G-Star decoder or some such thing. I put the battery clip on the back which props the tester up at a good angle.
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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 31067
      • Albion

      #62
      Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

      that's a nice fit.

      you should consider something to protect the display though - specially as the cable is exposed.

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 31067
        • Albion

        #63
        Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

        decided to upstage your foto's with a couple of my programming connector.
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        • SteveNielsen
          Retired Tech
          • Jun 2012
          • 2327
          • USA

          #64
          Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

          That's very good.

          Yeah, I'm not completely satisfied with my box yet either, but it's ok for now. I wasn't planning on using a metal box, I just happened to find it in a junk box and it's the right size. I know the disp cable is exposed, the tape over it is already starting to peel off just from what little handling it's had.

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          • SteveNielsen
            Retired Tech
            • Jun 2012
            • 2327
            • USA

            #65
            Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

            Have you fitted the rotary yet? I'm about to order one. Also what programming interface are you going to use? I thought you posted some info about that device before but I can't find it.

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            • SteveNielsen
              Retired Tech
              • Jun 2012
              • 2327
              • USA

              #66
              Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

              Will this ISP programmer work?

              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-I...rchweb201560_9

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 31067
                • Albion

                #67
                Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                that's exactly the right programmer.

                my rotary got delivered to a friends place, i wont be able to get it till later this week.
                i get parcels sent to a friend because he's always in to answer the door - it has it's bad points when i want something fast!

                about the programmer,
                you need to build of buy a 10pin to 6pin adapter.

                i built one with a 10pin socket from an old pc serial port and a 2x5 connector from an old pc case usb board.

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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 31067
                  • Albion

                  #68
                  Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                  programmer software is here:
                  http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/

                  driver:
                  http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/usbasp-w...2011-05-28.zip

                  programmer soft:
                  http://download.savannah.gnu.org/rel....1-mingw32.zip
                  Last edited by stj; 10-25-2015, 11:29 AM.

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                  • SteveNielsen
                    Retired Tech
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 2327
                    • USA

                    #69
                    Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                    Yeah I know I need a 6pin header, I'll dig one up. Thanks for the link but which software package to use under Linux, AVRDude or BASCOM-AVR?

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 31067
                      • Albion

                      #70
                      Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                      for Linux you just need avrdude - it should be in your distro repository.
                      what linux is it?

                      those links were for win users.

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                      • SteveNielsen
                        Retired Tech
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2327
                        • USA

                        #71
                        Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                        Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 31067
                          • Albion

                          #72
                          Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                          check the software repositry's - i bet avrdude is in it.

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                          • ben7
                            Capaholic
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 4059
                            • USA

                            #73
                            Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                            Wow, I'm jealous, that tester is so clever!
                            I thought you'd need to use much more circuitry to measure ESR ... but this thing measures ESR and more, with less!

                            Though I did spot that it says:
                            "You should not expect very good accuracy of measurement results, especially the ESR measurement
                            and the results of inductance measurement are not very exact."


                            I also see that it doesn't use a frequency of 100kHz to measure the ESR.

                            Originally posted by stj
                            i keep the covers from old tuners for that.
                            LOL, I do that too!
                            I keep some RF shields as well. They can be soldered to (not aluminum!), and I have some shears to cut the metal into whatever size/shape I need.

                            -Ben
                            Muh-soggy-knee

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                            • SteveNielsen
                              Retired Tech
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 2327
                              • USA

                              #74
                              Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                              Yeah, it is not as accurate as a better ESR meter but it is close enough for my use. I really like mine.

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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 31067
                                • Albion

                                #75
                                Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                                accuracy is improving,
                                there is a new calculation method being tested right now.
                                i'm not upgrading till they finish testing it though - i'm not their beta-tester!

                                also, you can change from an 8Mhz to 16Mhz crystal to improve test accuracy at the expense of battery life.

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #76
                                  Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                                  i wonder how accurate these ebay testers are the compared to a proper esr tester has anyone tried to find out i wonder.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #77
                                    Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                                    You can use for example 1% 0.1 Ohms resistor to see how close it is.
                                    http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...10CT-ND/596475
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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 31067
                                      • Albion

                                      #78
                                      Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                                      i will do a test for everybody in the next couple of weeks, i know someone i can borrow a peak-atlas ESR-70 from.

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                                      • stj
                                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                        • Dec 2009
                                        • 31067
                                        • Albion

                                        #79
                                        Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        You can use for example 1% 0.1 Ohms resistor to see how close it is.
                                        http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...10CT-ND/596475
                                        resistance is accurate to atleast one - maybe 2 decimal points.

                                        that's not the same as ESR though if the tester uses a different frequency from the factory making the datasheets - which is the case.

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                                        • Per Hansson
                                          Super Moderator
                                          • Jul 2005
                                          • 5895
                                          • Sweden

                                          #80
                                          Re: Transitor/ESR tester dead

                                          Originally posted by ben7
                                          Wow, I'm jealous, that tester is so clever!
                                          I thought you'd need to use much more circuitry to measure ESR ... but this thing measures ESR and more, with less!

                                          Though I did spot that it says:
                                          "You should not expect very good accuracy of measurement results, especially the ESR measurement
                                          and the results of inductance measurement are not very exact."


                                          I also see that it doesn't use a frequency of 100kHz to measure the ESR.
                                          I've seen several of these testers that show they can be used as signal generators up to 2Mhz.
                                          Does anyone have any insight to why they don't measure ESR at 100Khz then, sounds like it should be easy to do...?
                                          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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