Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed

charlyd · 07-07-2022, 02:17 PM

Hello i have 2 D865GLC boards which i tested on my bench,
but on YouTube and the web i find movie where this board is started in native setup (just cpu.mem,psu)
connected to the onboard.

on both my boards i need to install a pci card otherwise the cpu fans will stop af 2 seconds spinning.

all my caps look ok, and both boards don t give
any error or other (boot) problem, but only with a pci card installed.

what are my boards different from other boards??
curious to responses..
thanks

charlyd · 07-08-2022, 02:02 PM

does this problem has todo with motherboard caps?
despite that the board boot ok without problem into windows with a pci card installed?

but with no card cpu spins shortly and that is where the process ends. no post , no picture , no poweron

Who has seen this behaviour more?

**SMDFlea** · 07-09-2022, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlyd

does this problem has todo with motherboard caps?
despite that the board boot ok without problem into windows with a pci card installed?

but with no card cpu spins shortly and that is where the process ends. no post , no picture , no poweron

Who has seen this behaviour more?

what sort of PCI card do you mean, a graphics card

**Per Hansson** · 07-09-2022, 08:28 AM

Yes, see more here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair...-av-bios-file/

**Per Hansson** · 07-09-2022, 09:02 AM

Seems to possibly be a BIOS issue, are you running the latest BIOS?
I attached the full BIOS changelog for all BIOS versions up to the latest P25.

Quote:

BIOS Version P13-0053 (Production 13, build 0053):
Fixed issue where system would not complete POST if no videocard is plugged in and a LAN card present.

**SMDFlea** · 07-09-2022, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Per Hansson

Yes, see more here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair...-av-bios-file/

I read it then got sidetracked looking at used scopes on ebay

**SMDFlea** · 07-09-2022, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Per Hansson

Seems to possibly be a BIOS issue, are you running the latest BIOS?
I attached the full BIOS changelog for all BIOS versions up to the latest P25.

Does all the old scopes with standard retail motherboards have a customised bios

**Per Hansson** · 07-10-2022, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMDFlea

I read it then got sidetracked looking at used scopes on ebay

Yes this is the danger of browsing eevblog too much, wait till you get drawn into the TEA thread!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMDFlea

Does all the old scopes with standard retail motherboards have a customised bios

No, most just use a custom splash screen and that's it, see an example here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair...oscope-repair/

charlyd · 07-11-2022, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMDFlea

what sort of PCI card do you mean, a graphics card

@SMDflea, yes i installed a S3 trio card but i also get a picture on the onboard vga connector. But it just will not poweron without cards installed ? cpu fan en psu fan spin for 2 seconds and them nothing...

charlyd · 07-11-2022, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Per Hansson

Yes this is the danger of browsing eevblog too much, wait till you get drawn into the TEA thread!!!

No, most just use a custom splash screen and that's it, see an example here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair...oscope-repair/

Hi Per Hansson, you are right it is probibly not the bios i have to rectify on evvblog. the Bios give the different splash.

the most weird thing i have is the same behaviour on two boards. both not coming to live without a card. And With card they work fine. when bios is set to agp the onboard give a picture. (but S3 trio installed) when set to PCI the post screen show on pci card. tested all things like installing windows on a conneted drive all work great but really weird "that must have card"

**Per Hansson** · 07-11-2022, 03:50 AM

Did you even read post #5?
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...39&postcount=5

charlyd · 07-11-2022, 05:27 AM

@Per hansson: you mean the issues written in the P25 new fixes/features.
ew Fixes/Features:
 Updated VBios to Build 1235.
 Fixed and issue of not defaulting video to the proprietary video card.
 Fixed and issue of POST code D0 hang when proprietary video card is installed and
CMOS is corrupt.

yes yes i have seen them but the bios version of demindragon his board was P17. and working ok.

**Per Hansson** · 07-11-2022, 06:28 AM

No, version P13 as I quoted in post #5

charlyd · 07-13-2022, 08:30 AM

now i have read all onder bios issues 1 by 1. indead there was an issue... i gues fixed in the newer version. mine was P22. but i even saw video issues fixed in P25.
so will flash to that one later..

07-07-2022, 02:17 PM	#1
charlyd New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 City & State: tilburg My Country: nl I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 7	Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed Hello i have 2 D865GLC boards which i tested on my bench, but on YouTube and the web i find movie where this board is started in native setup (just cpu.mem,psu) connected to the onboard. on both my boards i need to install a pci card otherwise the cpu fans will stop af 2 seconds spinning. all my caps look ok, and both boards don t give any error or other (boot) problem, but only with a pci card installed. what are my boards different from other boards?? curious to responses.. thanks Last edited by charlyd; 07-07-2022 at 02:20 PM..

07-08-2022, 02:02 PM	#2
charlyd New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 City & State: tilburg My Country: nl I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 7	Re: Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed does this problem has todo with motherboard caps? despite that the board boot ok without problem into windows with a pci card installed? but with no card cpu spins shortly and that is where the process ends. no post , no picture , no poweron Who has seen this behaviour more? Last edited by charlyd; 07-08-2022 at 02:19 PM..

07-09-2022, 08:28 AM	#4
Per Hansson Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 City & State: ---- My Country: Sweden Line Voltage: 230v 50Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 5,384	Re: Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed Yes, see more here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair...-av-bios-file/ __________________ "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

07-11-2022, 03:50 AM	#11
Per Hansson Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 City & State: ---- My Country: Sweden Line Voltage: 230v 50Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 5,384	Re: Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed Did you even read post #5? https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...39&postcount=5

07-11-2022, 05:27 AM	#12
charlyd New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 City & State: tilburg My Country: nl I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 7	Re: Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed @Per hansson: you mean the issues written in the P25 new fixes/features. ew Fixes/Features:  Updated VBios to Build 1235.  Fixed and issue of not defaulting video to the proprietary video card.  Fixed and issue of POST code D0 hang when proprietary video card is installed and CMOS is corrupt. yes yes i have seen them but the bios version of demindragon his board was P17. and working ok.

07-11-2022, 06:28 AM	#13
Per Hansson Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 City & State: ---- My Country: Sweden Line Voltage: 230v 50Hz I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 5,384	Re: Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed No, version P13 as I quoted in post #5

07-13-2022, 08:30 AM	#14
charlyd New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 City & State: tilburg My Country: nl I'm a: Knowledge Seeker Posts: 7	Re: Intel D865GLC desktop board. no power-on without cards installed now i have read all onder bios issues 1 by 1. indead there was an issue... i gues fixed in the newer version. mine was P22. but i even saw video issues fixed in P25. so will flash to that one later..

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