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    Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

    Reported as TV not turning on and power supply squealing.

    Check all transformer output diodes and not shorted.

    Schematic and service manual in this thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ight=40PFL4908

    Disconnected power supply outputs and there is a very quick squeal when plugged in. AMP+13V and P-ON+21V measure half their expected output.

    Bridge rectifier diodes test ok. Fuse F602 not blown. Main switching transistor Q601 not shorted. Measuring 168V on drain (expecting 292V from schematic) so the input is half as well.

    Will need to check all the components going to FET of the drain and input of the transformer.

    40PFL4908/F7

    #2
    Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

    Originally posted by neilc6 View Post
    Reported as TV not turning on and power supply squealing.

    Check all transformer output diodes and not shorted.

    Schematic and service manual in this thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ight=40PFL4908

    Disconnected power supply outputs and there is a very quick squeal when plugged in. AMP+13V and P-ON+21V measure half their expected output.

    Bridge rectifier diodes test ok. Fuse F602 not blown. Main switching transistor Q601 not shorted. Measuring 168V on drain (expecting 292V from schematic) so the input is half as well.

    Will need to check all the components going to FET of the drain and input of the transformer.

    40PFL4908/F7
    The power supply board is running otherwise you will not have any output Voltage.
    1) When the power supply board is not connected to the main board, the power supply will be in standby condition because it is not getting P-ON signal to turn it fully on that is why the 13V and the 21V are showing about 1/2 of the printed Voltage.
    2) The Voltage on the drain of the MOSFET is switching DC at high frequency, your meter is not going to show that correctly.
    At this point, you need to connect the power supply board back in place then check the RESISTANCE between AL+3.3V, AMP+13V, P-ON+21V against cold side GND to see if any one of them show low resistance.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      #3
      Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

      P-ON+21V measured low about 8 ohms with board connected up. When I plugged it in, transformer squealed. Will trace that line in the service manual.

      I have repaired this board before (blown fuse, shorted transistors and diodes) and +13V and +21V were present with just AC plugged in. The troubleshooting flowchart confirms this.

      Further testing indicates squealing with the ribbon to the main board connected.
      Last edited by neilc6; 05-18-2019, 02:56 PM.

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        #4
        Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

        Look for C3214 (close to IC 3201) on the main board to see if it also show 8 ohms or not, see service manual page 10-14.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          #5
          Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

          My TV is type A so the equivalent schematic is on page 10-7. C3943 by IC3901. And it measures 8 ohms across C3943.

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            #6
            Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

            There many filters caps connected to the P-ON+21V, so start removing them to see which one will cause the short to go away.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              #7
              Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

              Removed both C3945 and C3943 and still reads 8 ohms. Leaves IC3901 (+12V regulator) suspect.

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                #8
                Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

                If you look at P-ON+21 net symbol, it also goes to other pages, I.E. DIGITAL 7 page 10 -12, there are many many caps on that P-ON+21V line.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  #9
                  Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

                  On cap #5 out of 10, I found the shorted one. C3616 off IC3603. Removed it and TV turns on! Thanks budm.

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                    #10
                    Re: Philips 40PFL4908 Power Supply Problems

                    Great, easy fix; lucky it is not the #10 that was shorted. C3214 is the typiacl one that shorted out, you may want to changed all those 4.7uF cap on the +21V line so you do not have to go through this again.
                    Last edited by budm; 05-18-2019, 06:01 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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