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    artefacts Lg60PZ550

    Hi

    Excuse my poor English, I'm French.

    A friend gave me his TV A Lg 60PZ550_UA .
    This one had an image with holes.

    Here is one of the flaws

    https://img110.xooimage.com/views/0/...9-54825ca.jpg/

    By activating the test pattern here is what I found

    https://vimeo.com/271719070

    I managed to really improve the image by setting Vy to +8v.
    But there are still several shortcomings

    https://youtu.be/Ockpf6fJa2I

    This defect is clearly visible on the whites

    https://img110.xooimage.com/views/7/...9-549f0b0.jpg/
    On the black background I also notice a swarm of green and white dots.

    These defects are almost absent on the TV antenna but very visible on a video via USB.
    When I run a white clean the image is perfect during this test

    I also rewelded the induction coils without any more success, and changed the ctrl card .

    I don't know what to do anymore.

    Thanks

    Daniel
    Last edited by pasdebip; 06-16-2018, 05:43 AM.

    #2
    Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

    Hello Daniel.
    Can you take pictures of different electronic cards.
    Power supply.
    The Zsus card
    The Ysus card.
    Control card
    What are the tensions noted on the power supply connector.
    VS VA ..... and the others.
    You must have a label stuck on the slab indicating the main tension that should be present.
    It looks like a Z card problem down but you have to tell us much more.
    Impossible to advance more without adequate information.
    cordially
    Thierry

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      #3
      Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

      Hi see me again
      I found the repair technician manual
      LG television on the page of this site.

      Download it, it's in PDF format.
      cordially

      Thierry

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        #4
        Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

        Hi Thierry

        Thank you for your Help.

        Here are the voltage readings:
        Va 56v
        Vs 204v
        VZB 112v (adjustment to 107v)
        VSC 152v
        Vy -186v
        M5v 5v

        http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/24/okkl.jpg

        Here are the pictures of the cards



        http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/24/j4fh.jpg

        http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/24/1ypc.jpg

        http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/24/hbs5.jpg

        http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/24/pcy4.jpg

        http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/24/k9ak.jpg

        Thanks

        Cordially

        Daniel
        Last edited by pasdebip; 06-17-2018, 02:03 AM.

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          #5
          Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

          Hello
          Check the fuse on the ZSUS board
          Please, I can not read the reference of the ZSUS card.
          You must read the reference on the picture you posted, if you can not, I can not see that either.
          You must have an EAX type reference .............
          Please try again a clearer picture of the zsus.
          SInon, the measurement values are in accordance with the label of the panel
          cordially
          Thierry

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            #6
            Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

            Hello

            The fuse on the Zsus card is ok.
            The card reference is EAX62076601

            Cordially
            Daniel

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              #7
              Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

              Hello
              Ok, so the fuse is not cut.
              What can you find on the P102 connector.
              The voltages are shown on the printed map, I am using a photo found on the web to try to help you.
              Sorry to say but Z card photos are unusable.
              There is a connector at the bottom of your card but we can not see anything exploitable.
              Can you tell me if your fault is similar to the video link?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS9WxoK-Kv8
              Sorry for my bad english but I'm french.
              Cordialy
              Thierry

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                #8
                Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                Did you try to adjust SET_UP and SET_DN? On the Y-SUS,2 potentiometers close to the heatsink,adjust caurefully and remember their original positions,poor adjusting can cause more image errors and make the panel more susceptible to burn in.

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                  #9
                  Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                  Normally this picture is better.

                  https://zupimages.net/up/18/24/vv9i.jpg

                  Va and Vs voltages were taken from this connector.

                  The defect on the video indeed resembles what I had initially before modifying Vy

                  Here's what I have now:
                  almost only with usb port
                  https://zupimages.net/up/18/24/awwa.jpg

                  And on all black backgrounds the video was taken near the screen to better visualize the defect.

                  https://youtu.be/Tm_WiDXazx0

                  Cordially

                  Daniel

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                    #10
                    Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                    Originally posted by Biruslapio View Post
                    Did you try to adjust SET_UP and SET_DN? On the Y-SUS,2 potentiometers close to the heatsink,adjust caurefully and remember their original positions,poor adjusting can cause more image errors and make the panel more susceptible to burn in.
                    Hi
                    yes but without effect on the fault

                    Daniel

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                      #11
                      Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                      the defect of pink points is increased on all the sources except the tuner

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                        #12
                        Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                        Hello

                        I thought from the beginning to a failure of the ZSus card.

                        But, I'm not sure now.
                        Since the new settings, the picture comes quickly?
                        Does it take the entire width of the screen or a dark area at boot time?

                        In case it is defective, there is a repair kit but it is suitable in the case of a cut fuse and short-circuit mosfet transistors

                        The state of the electronic welds should be carefully checked.
                        on the Zsus card and the Ysus card

                        Cordially

                        Thierry

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                          #13
                          Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                          Tonight I'll take a video of the start of the TV, this one looks a lot for a split second like what you showed on your video.

                          I ran the Y and Zsus cards through the camera without finding anything obvious.

                          I didn't specify it but if I don't use the APS image mode on the tuner the pink dots reappear but much less than on the other sources.

                          Thanks Thierry

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                            #14
                            Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                            Here is a video when the TV is turned on

                            https://youtu.be/GBVsEefJ3oI

                            The horizontal stripes are not visible to the naked eye

                            Daniel
                            Last edited by pasdebip; 06-18-2018, 12:55 PM.

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                              #15
                              Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                              Hello Daniel

                              In view of your video, it is not a problem of ZSus.

                              But, Something really makes time to settle in the TV.
                              It would be necessary to seek at the level of the regulation of the various tensions.
                              Did you gently tap the cards to see if your electrical contact was good?
                              Check welds on different capacitors, regulators and all that can heat.
                              Also check all the welds on the connectors of the different cards, also verify that the supply voltage is on the control board and does not vary at start-up.
                              Be careful when you control the power board, the primary part can keep voltages of the order of 400 volts on the filtering capabilities. check with volt meter.
                              Normally, a resistance in the circuit discharges the capacitance.
                              Otherwise, a resistance of 1k about 1 watt can do the trick to discharge the capacitors
                              Controlled well the nappe of the control board towards the other circuits and their connection

                              Cordially

                              Thierry

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                                #16
                                Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                                Hello Thierry,

                                Thank you for your help

                                I used a camera already controlled the hot spots without finding anything abnormal but I will start again (it is long....)
                                Between now and Friday because I am at work I will also look in more detail at the connections and layers of the six maps.
                                I'll try to control the voltages Vx at startup.

                                What I can already say is that on the Zsus card a runway is taken off at the foot of a capacitor, without breaking the continuity in the air to be good( ohmeter).
                                I glued this one back on and ironed a welding film to reinforce it.
                                This track took off when I took out the capacitor to check it the fault was already present before.

                                This is the progress of the project

                                Have a nice day
                                Last edited by pasdebip; 06-18-2018, 11:46 PM.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                                  Good evening
                                  I just dismantled the six cards, I didn't find a bad solder.
                                  Then TV on the USB source to see if my actions changed anything I tapped all the connections as well as the components .

                                  Nothing change...
                                  I still have to control the starting voltages.

                                  Is it worth checking all capacitors by removing them (voltages ok)?

                                  Can the motherboard be the cause?

                                  Thank you

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                                    #18
                                    Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                                    Hello

                                    Here's the latest news,

                                    I checked the voltages at startup except VZB which rises to peak at 127v and then goes down to 107v I found nothing abnormal.

                                    Friday I had a tech from lg who was thinking about an old tile or a filtering problem on the ysus card.

                                    Here is a copy of his email
                                    "Hello,
                                    Top and Bot are the cards to the left of the Ysus.
                                    With use, if poor filtering is performed, the Ysus may be "tired".
                                    It may be another card, but it's no longer available."

                                    I haven't made much progress...

                                    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

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                                      #19
                                      Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                                      Have u tried re-flowing the coil solder joints on the zsus ?
                                      Checked the buffers for shorts on the ysus ?

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                                        #20
                                        Re: artefacts Lg60PZ550

                                        If they look like this, on the ysus or zsus, they are bad.
                                        Attached Files

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