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    #21
    Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

    Originally posted by Relayer View Post
    Hello budm,


    Could you please tell me the detrimental effects if two diodes were in circuit rather than one?


    I realize this, and yet it originally had one diode and no filtering what so ever. Ripple would have been relatively high with half wave rectification.
    So what should I have labeled the output voltage. 13.4, 16V with ripple???
    Regards,
    Relayer

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    @ evilkitty
    The more I look at that thermal disconnect, it looks more like a mercury tilt switch.
    Is one of the components pigtail attached to the top of the transformer?
    I already explain that it is pulse charging circuit. That D2you have in the circuit is just a waste of power dissipation.
    Never stop learning
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      #22
      Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

      And what is your reason for putting in there?
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        #23
        Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

        Please delete
        Last edited by Relayer; 12-02-2017, 06:07 PM.

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          #24
          Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

          Hello evilkitty,

          If we are going for vintage wouldn't original working order be better? as opposed to adding a pcb with a few components in it?
          to my understanding it just needs to ~$0.50 diode to be vintage
          now if wanted to upgrade this design i could slap a few caps in this thing and rewire it, but then it would not be original in its design, all of the components are on the ground side of the circuit
          You have to remember that when people restore vintage radios and other appliances, its extremely rare that they can get original parts again. Therefore they have to use modern components to do their repairs.
          Some actually hide the modern component inside the original by hollowing it out. Paper capacitors were a favorite. But inevitably they have to replace some parts that stick out like dogs balls in regards to being modern.

          You are correct though, the restoration of your charger would suffice with a diode inserted and no caps or other components.
          Though, with the switch, you should be able to get one that is very similar to the original. You could also try spraying the switch with CRC 2-26 in hopes that it will be able to slide and actually make a proper contact with the 6 volt side of it.
          Regards,
          Relayer

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            #25
            Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

            mine got a drop of deoxit in the switch.other than a sanding and repaint with the nearest rattlecan i could find its stock.the cover was rusty.
            little to go wrong in these.
            not bad for something older than me.

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              #26
              Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

              Would the anode (+) or the cathode (-) of the diode go to the battery ground terminal?
              having 2 power sources is messing with my head

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                #27
                Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

                lets use my mspait skills... ok i used gimp cause i don't run windows, but...

                That would be right for charging a battery right, cause we do not want the battery to discharge
                i checked the voltage and got 25vdc but it shows 12v AC
                is this correct?
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                  #28
                  Re: I'm not sure it gets more gutless than this

                  if you mean the diode's anode connects to the negative battery terminal, yeah that looks right. Should always test in DC mode, and ensure that you get a negative voltage when you reverse connections. The ripple from the halfwave rectifier will happily read weird voltages for non-true RMS voltmeters...

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