Yo my IDE cable did not work.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Okay this is the capacitor statistics.

A lot of them on the board are Teapo

7x TEAPO 30mm in height/ 10mm width. ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3
3x TEAPO 25mm in height/ 5mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3
8x TEAPO 20mm in height/ 8mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

1x TayeH 13mm in height/ 6mm width ( 330uF, 6.3v, sm ) A135
I Couldn't see TayeH temp

3x brown 20mm in height/ 6mm width ( 1800uF, 6.3v, sm 105c )

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

brown is kzg : 1800/6.3uf


1800 uF 6.3v 8x20 0.021 ohm 1,870 ma

These will work from Farnell (since you're in UK I use this site):

http://uk.farnell.com/nichicon/uhn0j...ial/dp/2112862


There's a problem with what you wrote: the Teapo can't all be 2700uF 6.3v and have various sizes.

Teapo SM series datasheet:


7x TEAPO 30mm in height/ 10mm width. ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

2700uF 6.3v :

size ripple impedance/esr
10x19 1450 0.024
10x25 2200 0.022

So it's probably the 10x25 version.

In this case you can go for this:

http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...0uf/dp/1800611


3x TEAPO 25mm in height/ 5mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

There's NO capacitor in the SM series with 5mm diameter. Have a second look and get the right values.

8x TEAPO 20mm in height/ 8mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

There's no 2700uF in 8mm diameter. You probably mean:

1200uF 6.3v 8x20 1250 0.041 (unlikely)
680uF 8x20 1250 0.041 (possible, but still unlikely)

Get back to me and the others with some real readings, we don't have to waste our time if you're not serious about it.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Okay this is the capacitor statistics.

A lot of them on the board are Teapo

7x TEAPO 30mm in height/ 10mm width. ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3
3x TEAPO 25mm in height/ 8mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3
8x TEAPO 20mm in height/ 8mm width ( 1000uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

1x TayeH 13mm in height/ 8mm width ( 330uF, 6.3v, sm ) A135
I Couldn't see TayeH temp

3x brown 20mm in height/ 6mm width ( 1800uF, 6.3v, sm 105c )

fixed.

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Well, as I shown above, the SM series shows only two possible types of 2700uF/6.3v :

10 x 19 mm and 10 x 25mm

Maybe you're measuring them from the base of the pcb and the capacitors bottoms are swollen?
You're not really challenged vertically, so the height doesn't matter that much. What is important is the diameter.
If you can fit a 10mm capacitor where you think you have 8mm capacitors, then you can go ahead and order 10 pieces of that Panasonic FR and you're all set.

That Tayeh is probably a Teapo - I for one don't have any datasheets for Tayeh. Either way, it's not a critical capacitor imho, so you will be OK with any capacitor that's 330uF 6.3v or 10v:

http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...-3v/dp/1219445
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...0uf/dp/1848405
http://uk.farnell.com/rubycon/10zlj3...0uf/dp/1831266

any of the above will work.

The links above in my previous comment are still valid.

So you have about 10 uk pounds worth of capacitors. Farnell may require a minimum of 20 pounds for an order in which case.. tough.

See if rs-components.com has the same capacitors I listed and what their policy is.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

I want to know how to measure correctly.

Maybe I got it wrong but your trying to get me to go blind with no help what so ever.



I don't think this is a good forum, for beginners to visit.
How do you measure



Is a good iron http://www.maplin.co.uk/30w-solderin...-powered-32909.

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

You measure the diameter of ANYTHING ROUND by going through the center of that thing. You don't put the tape by the capacitor trying to guess the diameter.

You measure the height from the bottom of the metallic can to the top of the metallic can. You don't include the metal tip of that measuring tape, and you don't include the pcb board or the rubber at the bottom of the capacitor.

People that have to measure diameters and heights usually use calipers, and it doesn't hurt to have something like that around the house anyway, especially since they cost as low as 2-3$.

I have to disagree and say this is a good forum, provided the people asking questions PAY ATTENTION to what others spending their spare time to help for free ask of them, and are careful to give good answers.


That soldering iron is crap.

Ideally, you need a soldering station, which allows you to adjust temperature. Well, the fact that you can adjust temperature is not really that important, it's more important that such stations are more powerful (usually they are 60-75 watts while that iron you linked to is only 30w at best) and can keep the tip of the iron hot. With that small iron, when you put it on the motherboard, the copper in the motherboard will almost instantly cool it down so you'll have to wait some time to get back to the proper temperature.

If you only need an iron to fix this motherboard, then it will be OK though you'll still have a hard time replacing the capacitors.
If you plan to do this several times, get a proper soldering station with temperature control.

As long as you're gonna buy capacitors, you could very well get a soldering iron from the same place, to get the order over 20 pounds or whatever's minimum on Farnell.
They have better quality irons than Maplin.

http://uk.farnell.com/duratool/d0079...lug/dp/1568160 if you want cheap.

If you want something good that will last, this will work:

http://uk.farnell.com/tenma/21-10115...-uk/dp/2064549

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Is this a good caliper.



I will get the solder station. Don't want to overheat anything.
Give me some links on how to use one.

I used the 30watt soldering on on a Playstation controller.
When the dual shock lead came out, I soldered the lead back in the socket.

Easy.

So when I get a Caliper, any tutorails on how to measure with it.

Also that 11 year old did his Dad give him the tools needed for the job.

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Yes, that caliper is good, but you might find on amazon uk digital calipers that are much cheaper. The accuracy on a digital caliper is good enough, at 0.1mm - the classic ones like the one you linked to can have better accuracy, but they're harder to read and in time the text can wear off.

example http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toolzone-Ele...3466334&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_st?...ers&sort=price

Farnell also has them, but they're a bit more expensive so it's not really worth it: http://uk.farnell.com/duratool/d0037...0mm/dp/1341278

Links on how to solder and using a solder station, here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=J5Sb21qbpEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Yes, that caliper is good, but you might find on amazon uk digital calipers that are much cheaper. The accuracy on a digital caliper is good enough, at 0.1mm - the classic ones like the one you linked to can have better accuracy, but they're harder to read and in time the text can wear off.

example http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toolzone-Ele...3466334&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_st?...ers&sort=price

Farnell also has them, but they're a bit more expensive so it's not really worth it: http://uk.farnell.com/duratool/d0037...0mm/dp/1341278

Links on how to solder and using a solder station, here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=J5Sb21qbpEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY

So when I get a Caliper, any tutorails on how to measure with it.

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Are you serious?

One part of the caliper slides left and right. You spread that part of the caliper so the component you want to measure fits tightly between the two parts of the caliper and you read the value.

If you have a digital caliper, you just read the value off the lcd screen.

If you get a classic one (not digital), you just count the lines at the bottom.. it's not hard.

See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xssnKUtYYMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hlNi0jdoeQ

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

Near the processor to the left 3 are 1800uF 16v.

KM133A Pro5.

More info.

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

See post #22... what else can i say.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

It's easy to do.

3x TEAPO 30mm in height/ 10mm width. ( 1800uF, 16v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3
7x TEAPO 25mm in height/ 10mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3
8x TEAPO 20mm in height/ 8mm width ( 1000uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

1x TayeH 13mm in height/ 6mm width ( 330uF, 6.3v, sm ) A135
I Couldn't see TayeH temp

3x brown 20mm in height/ 6mm width ( 1800uF, 6.3v, sm 105c )

Changed.

[mariushm]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

I don't know how many times I said it already... don't just copy paste and give me crap data if you want accurate answer.

There's no 1800uF 16v capacitor from Teapo in the SM series. There's no such capacitor in the datasheets I have. It's probably some other series but you didn't bother to actually check.

The brown ones are NOT sm, they're UCC KZG most likely. Teapo doesn't use the brown color on the outside, so they can't be Teapo SM.
And they can't be 6mm wide, they don't make capacitors of such high capacity value at 6mm, the smallest possible is 8mm. The datasheet lists them at 8mm.

Please double check what you actually post, before clicking on the reply button next time.

Anyway, I'm going to give you what's compatible with those boards

any from each section will do

1800uf 16v:

http://uk.farnell.com/nichicon/uhm1c...ial/dp/2113083

2700uF 6.3v :

http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...0uf/dp/1800611

1000uF 6.3v:

http://uk.farnell.com/rubycon/10zl10...10v/dp/1144682
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...can/dp/1219456
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...rad/dp/1744870

1800uF 6.3v:

http://uk.farnell.com/nichicon/uhn0j...ial/dp/2112862

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Yo my IDE cable did not work.

3x TEAPO 30mm in height/ 10mm width. ( 1800uF, 16v, sm 105c ) 11/01

7x TEAPO 27mm in height/ 10mm width ( 2700uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3

Not 100% sure of 100uF height ???
8x TEAPO 13mm in height/ 8mm width ( 1000uF, 6.3v, sm 105c ) 12/01 A3




1x TayeH 10mm in height/ 6mm width ( 330uF, 6.3v, sm ) A135
I Couldn't see TayeH temp


Just double checking.
3x KZG 20mm in height/ 8mm width ( 1800uF, 6.3v, m 105c )