Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

[shovenose]

OK so somebody gave me an Intel Q9300 CPU:
http://ark.intel.com/products/33922/...333-MHz-FSB%29
But he claims that it's broken because he was doing some sort of voltage mod and it got shorted.
He's like "you can have it but don't kill your mobo"
i found this http://www.hothardware.com/articleim...42/small_3.jpg mine is missing the 4 tan thing in the middle and one of the blue thing... is that bad?
...
I've got an ECS/Elitegroup motherboard, that IIRC supports 1333 Quad cores.
Can I test the CPU without risk of mobo damage? How do I fix the CPU?
I really want this to work,
thank you!

[ben7]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

... How do I fix the CPU?
...

dude, once the CPU is shorted, its gone forever!

-Ben

[dumpystig]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

You may as well go suck eggs as try and 'fix' a CPU shovey. If I were you I'd just install it in the mobo and see what happens - keep your fingers crossed it doesn't end up going

[ratdude747]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

- keep your fingers crossed it doesn't end up going

fixed.

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yeah, when its shot, its shot. not fixable. Trash (unless you need a socket protector for board storage).

[dumpystig]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

Didn't see that one ratty, yet it's right above the one I used????

[c_hegge]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

Just stick it in that ECS board of yours. It's a few years old now, so it's gonna die in a few months anyway.

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

Just stick it in that ECS board of yours. It's a few years old now, so it's gonna die in a few months anyway.

Just because I can't afford a $500 Gigabyte motherboard doesn't mean my $40 ECS board is crap! I haven't had a single issue, and it runs great under high load for about 12hrs/day (SMP F@H)...

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

You may as well go suck eggs as try and 'fix' a CPU shovey. If I were you I'd just install it in the mobo and see what happens - keep your fingers crossed it doesn't end up going

Could it kill my motherboard?

[Uranium-235]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

of course, i've seen it happen

I saw my dumbass ex-boss try to upgrade an old HT P4 sony by putting a pentium dual core inside it...I told him P4s run with higher voltage and it might not work.

silicon burning smell next. a quick 'told you so' followed

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

of course, i've seen it happen

I saw my dumbass ex-boss try to upgrade an old HT P4 sony by putting a pentium dual core inside it...I told him P4s run with higher voltage and it might not work.

silicon burning smell next. a quick 'told you so' followed

Oh I've put my Core 2 Duo E6600 that's currently in the ECS board in about 3 different P4-only boards, wondering why it doesn't work, until I realized the chipsets dont' support it.
Neither the CPUs nor the boards were toast, though!

[momaka]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

OK so somebody gave me an Intel Q9300 CPU:
http://ark.intel.com/products/33922/...333-MHz-FSB%29
But he claims that it's broken because he was doing some sort of voltage mod and it got shorted.
He's like "you can have it but don't kill your mobo"
i found this http://www.hothardware.com/articleim...42/small_3.jpg mine is missing the 4 tan thing in the middle and one of the blue thing... is that bad?

The "tan things" are ceramic caps. Most of the time, those are there to filter high-frequency ripple going to the CPU so the CPU may actually still work without them (but maybe not very reliably). I'm not really sure what the "blue thing" is - I would guess a resistor most likely... and very likely the CPU won't work right without it (and by that, I mean it probably won't get recognized by the board, assuming that it hasn't been damaged in any other way).

As for whether or not this CPU can damage your board - I'm not quite sure.
If your board supports quad cores, then I would guess most likely not. Normally the PWM controllers for the VRM MOSFETs have the option to shut down if they are overloaded. But who knows if ECS actually decided to use that option.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

of course a cpu can damage a board, not necessarily one will

there could be a direct short between the vrm and something hooking to the northbridge

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

This is an odd choice:
1. Put it in and see if it works,. Pros: could have a working free quadcore Cons: killed mobo
2. Replace resistor, then do option #1
3. Toss it. Pros: no risk on motherboard Cons: missing out on quad core epicness...

What do y'all think, should I do it?

[momaka]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

There's also option 4...
4. put the CPU on a shelf and wait until you get a better or more crappy board than your current one. If it's better, move your Core 2 in that and use the ECS to test the quad. If it's more crappy - well put the quad core in it and see if it blends .

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

Too impatient for option 4, even though that's a very good idea
That's what I might end up doing...

Anybody want to test a CPU for me?
:P jk

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

I've circled in red the missing components.

[c_hegge]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

...I can't afford a $500 Gigabyte motherboard

That's what MSI are for

doesn't mean my $40 ECS board is #@*&. I haven't had a single issue, and it runs great under high load for about 12hrs/day (SMP F@H)

My experience with ECS has been very different to yours. I tried a couple out for myself a few years ago, and they both died after only 6 months. At work, they don't show up particularly often in PCs, but when they do, they are usually dead. With Gigabyte, nearly every second computer I work on has a gigabyte board, but I still see just as many ECS boards go in the bin as Gigabyte. I don't see that many MSI or Intel boards in the bin either. I used an MSI board in My grandma's PC (socket A). It's still going strong to this day.

Back on topic, I'd say go with options 2 and 4.

[smason]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

I've circled in red the missing components.

Yup, confimed. Those are "tan things" alright!

Hey, if you can write your own browser, a few "tan things" are hardly a challenge.

A few more smileys just so you know I'm just messin with you.

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

Yup, confimed. Those are "tan things" alright!

Hey, if you can write your own browser, a few "tan things" are hardly a challenge.

A few more smileys just so you know I'm just messin with you.

lol

[shovenose]

Re: Test CPU without damaging motherboard?

Well, I tried it in my other S775 PC (Dell Optiplex 745) that usually Beeps and makes a loud fan noise when you stick a 1333 FSB CPU in (I've tried)...
anyway, it smelled like shit and didn't even beep...
I was afraid I fried my mobo but I put a Pentium Dual Core back in and it's fine... (I didn't want to put the E6600 in again in case it would kill the CPU...
Result: bad CPU, no mobo damage!