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    Unknown Surface Mount Component

    I need to figure out what this is ... I've tried googling the identifier as I see it, but no love ... anyone know what this is?

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    #2
    Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

    so what is it part of?

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      #3
      Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

      Originally posted by stj View Post
      so what is it part of?
      Bright single LED 4.5v flashlight.

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        #4
        Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

        Originally posted by stj View Post
        so what is it part of?
        Here is the whole circuit:

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          #5
          Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

          it's a chip - custom.
          did you remove some resistors?
          those chips only handle 1.4A, the board usually has some parallel resistors to limit the led current.

          if your trying to fix it, you can bypass it for 100% or off - no multi-mode.

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            #6
            Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

            Originally posted by stj View Post
            it's a chip - custom.
            did you remove some resistors?
            those chips only handle 1.4A, the board usually has some parallel resistors to limit the led current.

            if your trying to fix it, you can bypass it for 100% or off - no multi-mode.
            I have not removed anything from that circuit board ... thats all that was on there, those two components. I assume the little box is a resistor.

            What do you mean by "100% or off - no multi-mode"?

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              #7
              Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

              Originally posted by EasyGoing1 View Post
              I have not removed anything from that circuit board ... thats all that was on there, those two components. I assume the little box is a resistor.

              What do you mean by "100% or off - no multi-mode"?
              Multi-Mode: Low beam, Medium beam, High beam, Strobe, and SOS modes.
              Or it has just ON and OFF.
              Never stop learning
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              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
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              TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                #8
                Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                It appears to be flashlight LED controller + MCU. Some IC's have linear constant-current control and others have buck converter to do that for higher efficiency.

                My guess is YX8133A by shiningic but hell to translate. Replaced by YX8231B or YX8232B. I can't find much for SMD marking codes.
                If you have an inductor stashed away somewhere, it is a buck-converter type.
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                  #9
                  Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                  a better question, is what is the pcb diameter and how badly do you want to fix it?
                  there are better boards on ali-express.

                  do you know the led type? Q5? T6?
                  Last edited by stj; 11-04-2018, 05:37 AM.

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                    #10
                    Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                    Originally posted by budm View Post
                    Multi-Mode: Low beam, Medium beam, High beam, Strobe, and SOS modes.
                    Or it has just ON and OFF.
                    Oh - yeah ... it has High, Low, and Strobe, but I'd be ecstatic if I could make it just do HIGH and OFF.

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                      #11
                      Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                      Originally posted by stj View Post
                      a better question, is what is the pcb diameter and how badly do you want to fix it?
                      there are better boards on ali-express.

                      do you know the led type? Q5? T6?
                      The diameter of the PCB is exactly 20mm ... and I looked on the LED for ANY identifying markings, and I found none .... HOWEVER ... when I connect a 4.2 volt 18650 battery directly to the LED (no current limiting resistor at all), it lights up like an angel from heaven just popped in the room ... and it draws 1.5 amps which I feel is WAY TOO HOT to run that led ... but at least we know what it CAN do although it got hot so fast, I think it might burn out at that kind of continuous draw ... when I put a CC power supply on it at no more than 4.5 volts at 250ma its nice and bright..... if that tells you anything ...

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                        #12
                        Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                        https://www.ledgroupbuy.com/cree-model-comparison/
                        When you bought that flash light, what does the seller say/claim?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          #13
                          Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                          well a Q5 is 350mA and a T6 is 700mA - assuming your not overdriving them.
                          if it has zoom or you have a magnifier,
                          a Q5 has 3 rectangular segments and a T6 has 6.

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                            #14
                            Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                            Originally posted by stj View Post
                            well a Q5 is 350mA and a T6 is 700mA - assuming your not overdriving them.
                            if it has zoom or you have a magnifier,
                            a Q5 has 3 rectangular segments and a T6 has 6.
                            So the LED looks exactly like these ...

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                              #15
                              Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                              seriously?
                              that's rare.
                              well they could be anything - .5w, 1w, or 3w

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                                #16
                                Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                                Originally posted by stj View Post
                                seriously?
                                that's rare.
                                well they could be anything - .5w, 1w, or 3w
                                It took a fully charged 18650 like a champ and managed to source 1.4 amps from it ... damn near burning my skin before it ever fried, so it's a pretty decent LED ... What I really want to do with this thing is power it from a couple of 18650's at a respectable brightness - maybe 200ma .... with just an on / off feature, no blinking or any of that fancy stuff. I might just stick with the LMN317 constant current config ... seems to be reliable although maybe a little too lossy ...

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                                  then you need one of these:

                                  they are made for this job, if you want more current you just put 2 or more in parallel.

                                  you get a strip of 10 for under $2 on aliexpress.
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                                    Originally posted by EasyGoing1 View Post
                                    It took a fully charged 18650 like a champ and managed to source 1.4 amps from it ... damn near burning my skin before it ever fried, so it's a pretty decent LED ... What I really want to do with this thing is power it from a couple of 18650's at a respectable brightness - maybe 200ma .... with just an on / off feature, no blinking or any of that fancy stuff. I might just stick with the LMN317 constant current config ... seems to be reliable although maybe a little too lossy ...
                                    3.6V Voltage source feeding LM317 CC circuit to drive White LED (Vf of 3V @200aM) is not going to work because 317 has internal 1.25Vref, you will need more than 3.6V Voltage source.
                                    Build it and take some data.
                                    Last edited by budm; 11-07-2018, 10:44 AM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                                      Originally posted by budm View Post
                                      3.6V Voltage source feeding LM317 CC circuit to drive White LED (Vf of 3V @200aM) is not going to work because 317 has internal 1.25Vref, you will need more than 3.6V Voltage source.
                                      Build it and take some data.
                                      Thats why I was thinking of using TWO 18650's in series ... but what really bothers me about the LM317 option is all the waste ... id be recharging batteries too often ...


                                      STJ suggested the AMC7135 ... it looks pretty tight ...

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                                        #20
                                        Re: Unknown Surface Mount Component

                                        Page 4 of the AMC7135 spec sheet has the Pd calculation.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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