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    Panasonic led tv 55ds500

    Hi

    The tv turns on for a couple of seconds the screen looks fine and then it switches off and turns on again displays on the screen and then switches off.

    The standby red light flashes approx once every 3 seconds. Ive read up somewhere its the led driver board or the led strips.

    Can anyone advise me on how to distinguish between the driver board or the led strips (without having to take the screen out)

    The psu powers the led driver board which powers the led strips and the mother board? in series

    I disconnected the led strips from the led driver board but the tv wouldnt switch on.

    Any pointers would be appreciated
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    #2
    Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

    heres the photo with a view of the rear of the tv
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    Last edited by thuss; 11-28-2018, 06:06 PM.

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      #3
      Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

      So what kind of Voltage testing have you done so far?
      BTW, the pictures are too blur to help troubleshooting the problems.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
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        #4
        Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

        I didnt get a chance to test any voltages my multimeter packed up after testing components on the led driver board tnpa6073- I think its a faulty transformer bottom of photo number 5, My phone camera isnt what it used to be soz
        Last edited by thuss; 11-29-2018, 04:39 PM.

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          #5
          Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

          LED driver board: That is an inductor for the boost converter circuit for driving the LED's strings (8 strings).
          Right now we cannot tell much until we get some supply Voltage readings and control Voltage readings from you + good clear pictures.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            #6
            Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

            will do thanks - I should have seen the L symbol.

            Do you mind if I ask how I should test this 8 string inductor. Theres 5 legs on one side and 3 legs on the other ?I assume all should read with very low resistance?

            only the centre leg (on the three side) bleeps with all the 5 legs.

            the two outside legs individually (on the three side) read with two legs on the 5 side.

            Hope the above makes sense.

            Im getting values from 0.6 ohms to 480 ohms
            Last edited by thuss; 11-29-2018, 05:46 PM.

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              #7
              Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

              ignore previous post - completely misread Budm's post.

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                #8
                Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                I cant see any voltage tables written on any board.

                But going back to the led driver board the inductor (sorry about the blurry photo)

                In bleep mode

                Leg 1 to leg 2 no bleeps 486 ohm
                leg 3 to leg 4 Bleep 0.5

                Leg 4 to leg 1 Bleep 0,5
                Leg 2 to Leg 4 OL reverse probes 486


                Desolder the inductor

                Leg 1 to Leg 2 OL
                Leg 3 to leg 4 OL

                Leg 1 to Leg 4 0.5 Bleeps
                Leg 2 to leg 3 OL

                Is the above normal? I think its failed
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                Last edited by thuss; 12-01-2018, 09:55 PM.

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                  #9
                  Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                  We need to do Voltage testing but without good clear pictures I cannot tell you where to test.
                  Do not waste time looking at that inductor.
                  Right now we do not even know if the power supply is putting out correct Voltages and if the main board is sending out the correct control Voltage or not.
                  Last edited by budm; 12-01-2018, 10:28 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    #10
                    Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                    I hope the following helps if I start with the voltages on the psu left hand side of the plug going to the right

                    wire 1- 24.65 wire11- 24.65
                    wire 2- 24.65 wire 12- 24.65
                    wire 3- 0 wire 13- 24.65
                    wire 4- 0 wire 14-0
                    wire 5- 15.65 wire 15- 0
                    wire 6-15.65 wire 16- 15.65
                    wire 7- 0 wire 17- 0
                    wire 8 - 0 wire 18- 0
                    wire 9- 5.18 wire 19- 3.28
                    wire 10- 2.66 wire 20- 3.28


                    LED DRIVER BOARD LED connector Voltages

                    connector 1 top middle left (DC)

                    wire 1 red 79
                    wire 2 red 79
                    wire 3 red 79
                    wire 4 red 79
                    wire 5 black 3.4
                    wire 6 black 3.4
                    wire 7 black 44
                    wire 8 black 44

                    connector 2 led driver board

                    wire 1 red 79
                    wire 2 red 79
                    wire 3 red 79
                    wire 4 red 79
                    wire 5 black 44
                    wire 6 black 44
                    wire 7 black 44
                    wire 8 black 44

                    mainboard voltages connector block

                    wire 1 3.25 wire 8 0.11
                    wire 2 3.21 wire 9 3.32
                    wire 3 2.66 wire 10 3.25
                    wire 4 5.19 wire 11 3.27
                    wire 5 0 wire 12 0
                    wire 6 15.65 wire 13 0
                    wire 7 15.65 wire 14 15.65

                    Any pointers would be appreciated
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                    Last edited by thuss; 12-03-2018, 09:10 PM.

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                      #11
                      Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                      Based on some of the Voltage readings, it looks like 24VDC is the input Voltage to feed the LED backlights power supply, then it is boosted (by that boost converter circuits which that inductor is part of the circuits) to 79V to drive the LED strings.

                      'connector 1 top middle left (DC)

                      wire 1 red 79
                      wire 2 red 79
                      wire 3 red 79
                      wire 4 red 79
                      wire 5 black 3.4
                      wire 6 black 3.4

                      wire 7 black 44
                      wire 8 black 44'
                      Those that show 3.4V look suspicious.
                      This is where LED tester for testing the LED strings come in handy.BTW, what is the TV full model number? Is it TX-55ds500??
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                        Yes the model number TX-55ds500b. I did think the 3.4 were way to low.
                        Basically I think its time to remove the screen to access the led- something I hate doing on the 55 inch screens I just find it a bit to cumbersome.

                        I can get my hands on a led tester-can I unplug the connector and the connect the red to wire 1 and black to wire 5 and so on or is that wishful thinking?

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                          #13
                          Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                          If you have LED tester then you can easily test each LED string via the LED connector, you just have to pair (red and black wires) it correctly to the tester.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                            Originally posted by budm View Post
                            If you have LED tester then you can easily test each LED string via the LED connector, you just have to pair (red and black wires) it correctly to the tester.
                            If I understood correctly without taking the screen out.

                            I just pair the wires from the back of the to the led tester.

                            Based upon the voltages do you think the led driver maybe faulty?

                            I suppose what I could is disconnect the led strip connectors from the led driver board and see if it makes difference to the voltages.

                            If the 3.4 value increases then I know the backlights are dragging the voltages down

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                              #15
                              Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                              Just remove the LED connectors from the LED driver board and test 8 sets of the LED string, you will have to figure out which Red wire and Black wire to to connect to the LED tester to test each LED string.
                              Can we see good clear pictures of the back side of the LED driver board around the LED connectors?
                              Based on your readings, the 79V is the feeding Voltage to all 8 anode (all 8 anodes of the LED strips should be tied together) pins of the LED strips, the Black wires are the Cathode return for the LED strips, eacjh one of the LE Cathode return goes to PWM Controlled MOSFET and current sensing resistor then to circuit GND..
                              The LED tester will tell you if those two LED strings (one with 3.4V) are good or not.
                              Last edited by budm; 12-04-2018, 10:40 AM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                #16
                                Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                                Still waiting to get my led tester back - Does anyone know what the voltage values should be for the led driver board?

                                Just out of curiosity I unplugged the leds from the driver board and I got the following results

                                All the red wires pins had more that 70 to 90 plus volts on them.

                                All the black wires started to read 3.4v.

                                Does anyone know what the voltages on the driver board should be - thanks

                                Ive got the service manual - but I cant seem to find the output on the led driver board to led
                                Last edited by thuss; 12-05-2018, 03:49 PM.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                                  Look at the Voltae rating oeach one of those tow lytics caps willl give you the idea as what the Voltages should be.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                                    "The tv turns on for a couple of seconds the screen looks fine and then it switches off "
                                    What is the Voltage rating of that biggest cap on that LED driver board?
                                    The boosted Voltage you have right now is correct otherwise you not see the image on the screen.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                                      Biggest cap is rated at 63v.

                                      One thing I forgot to mention the connection (right hand side of led driver board) the last black wire disconnected is reading -0.1v whilst all other black wires 3.4v

                                      Arent the black wires anodes?
                                      Last edited by thuss; 12-05-2018, 08:29 PM.

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                                        #20
                                        Re: Panasonic led tv 55ds500

                                        That is why you need to provide good clear pictures of top and bottom side of the board so we can see the circuit connection, we can spend days or months on this board without the good clear pictures.
                                        So what is the small one rated at?
                                        BTW, you did use chassis GND for the meter when you measure all those Voltages, correct?
                                        Last edited by budm; 12-05-2018, 09:53 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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