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**diif** · 05-27-2019, 03:46 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Originally posted by Davi.p View Post

Which stencil?? I have no stencil obviously.. I will not use it..
My reflow worsen the situation so i go for reballing and if does not work maybe a new chip ordered..

My mistake, they cost £10/$10/€10 and it saves having to manually place 788 balls. Why would you not buy one ?

**Davi.p** · 05-27-2019, 07:46 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

I cannot wait for the stencil to arrive to know which is the balls size to order and wait another month or two to begin the job.. i think i will spend half an hour or less to place the balls by hand so maybe i can do it so..

**diif** · 05-27-2019, 09:11 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/9x9-FNP10...-/273592452088

0.6mm balls.

**Davi.p** · 05-28-2019, 05:36 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Ok thanks!

**Maalobs** · 05-30-2019, 09:49 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

While I was at it, I also took a backup of the EDID config in the TV.
The EDID is stored in this chip:

Apparently it's a huge hassle to get access to the datasheet for it from Lattice, who nowadays owns Silicon Image.
But it's not needed, there is just one detail there that is important to know; this particular chip does not support writing to EDID via HDMI, it must be done through the I2C-bus.
Once you know that, you can handle writing any corrupt bytes in the register with a BusPirate or a Raspberry Pi.

Reading the EDID works through HDMI of course, here is how it's done from a computer with Linux that has the HDMI-output connected to one of the inputs on the TV:

Code:

knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ su -
root@Microknoppix:~# modprobe i2c-dev
root@Microknoppix:~# apt-get update
root@Microknoppix:~# apt-get install i2c-tools

# List the available I2C-buses on your computer:
root@Microknoppix:~# i2cdetect -l | sort
i2c-0 smbus   SMBus I801 adapter at 3040   SMBus adapter
i2c-1 i2c     i915 gmbus ssc         I2C adapter
i2c-2 i2c     i915 gmbus vga         I2C adapter
i2c-3 i2c     i915 gmbus panel         I2C adapter
i2c-4 i2c     i915 gmbus dpc         I2C adapter
i2c-5 i2c     i915 gmbus dpb         I2C adapter
i2c-6 i2c     i915 gmbus dpd         I2C adapter
i2c-7 i2c     DPDDC-A             I2C adapter

# List all available device addresses on each I2C-bus, then look for any device address 0x50 in the output:

root@Microknoppix:~# perl -we 'system("i2cdetect -y $_") for 0..7'
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- 08 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- 44 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 3a -- -- -- -- --
40: 40 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: 50 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- <- 0x50 here
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
40: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f
00:     03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0a 0b 0c 0d 0e 0f
10: 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 1d 1e 1f
20: 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f
30: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f
40: 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 4a 4b 4c 4d 4e 4f
50: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --            

# Only one instance of address 0x50 on this computer, on the 5th I2C-bus, so dump the values of that device on that bus:

root@Microknoppix:~# i2cdump -y 5 0x50
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f  0123456789abcdef
00: 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 41 0c 00 00 01 01 01 01  ........A?..????
10: 2a 16 01 03 80 84 4a 78 0a e6 92 a3 54 4a 99 26  *?????Jx????TJ?&
20: 0f 4a 4c 21 08 00 b3 00 95 00 a9 40 90 40 81 00  ?JL!?.?.?.?@?@?.
30: 81 80 81 40 01 01 02 3a 80 18 71 38 2d 40 58 2c  ???@???:??q8-@X,
40: 45 00 00 d0 52 00 00 1e 02 3a 80 d0 72 38 2d 40  E..?R..??:??r8-@
50: 10 2c 45 80 00 d0 52 00 00 1e 00 00 00 fc 00 50  ?,E?.?R..?...?.P
60: 68 69 6c 69 70 73 20 46 54 56 0a 20 00 00 00 fd  hilips FTV? ...?
70: 00 30 3e 0f 46 11 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 93  .0>?F?.?   ??
80: 02 03 3a f1 52 10 1f 20 22 21 05 14 04 13 12 03  ??:?R?? "!??????
90: 11 02 16 07 15 06 01 26 09 1f 07 15 07 50 83 01  ???????&?????P??
a0: 00 00 70 03 0c 00 10 00 38 2d af 4c 4c d0 04 01  ..p??.?.8-?LL???
b0: 40 01 ff e3 05 03 01 e2 00 49 01 1d 80 3e 73 38  @?.?????.I???>s8
c0: 2d 40 7e 2c 45 80 00 d0 52 00 00 1e 01 1d 80 d0  -@~,E?.?R..?????
d0: 72 1c 16 20 10 2c 25 80 00 d0 52 00 00 9e 01 1d  r?? ?,%?.?R..???
e0: 00 bc 52 d0 1e 20 b8 28 55 40 00 d0 52 00 00 1e  .?R?? ?(U@.?R..?
f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4a  ...............J

# Save the results:

root@Microknoppix:~# i2cdump -y 5 0x50 > dump.txt
root@Microknoppix:~# mv dump.txt /home/knoppix/
root@Microknoppix:~# chown knoppix:knoppix /home/knoppix/dump.txt
root@Microknoppix:~# logout
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ logout

Here are some references about reading the EDID:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGg1nyTY6oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IMkGdeXcS4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extend...ification_Data

**Maalobs** · 05-30-2019, 10:03 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

I'm finished with everything on the TV now, hopefully it will have many more good years left in it.

The new heatsink is in place:

I also put a small heatsink on the NAND-chip, but it's on the underside of the board so it's not visible here.

The chassis got a classic redneck solution:

Say hello to my little friend:

Thanks for all your help guys!

I have squirreled away all the firmware images from this model, so let me know if you need a copy of anything.

**Davi.p** · 05-30-2019, 10:19 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

From Windows you can use MonInfo software from Entech to read/write EDID..

**Maalobs** · 05-30-2019, 10:48 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Sure, if you want to pay money for something that's free.

I don't normally use Linux but it's something I have needed to learn to be able to get things done.
In this case, I booted my laptop from a USB-stick with Knoppix, one of many different bootable live systems with Linux.
It's quite handy to have ready for occasions like this.

**Davi.p** · 05-31-2019, 03:55 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

The SW i've said is free...

**Maalobs** · 05-31-2019, 10:08 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

It's shareware so technically you should pay for it, but I'll agree to calling it "free".

**Davi.p** · 06-01-2019, 03:45 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Yes, in fact It's a strange program, i can modify data and set write mode but i've realized the writing is not functional..

**Maalobs** · 06-06-2019, 11:31 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

I forgot to mention; I have posted the contents of the SPI Flash and I2C EEPROM in this sticky thread, in case anyone has use for them:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=533

**HermannS** · 06-09-2019, 04:32 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Hello folks, Herr Alpengeist speaking :-)

I found this thread while going through the visitor stats of my blog. Thanks for stopping by!

I gave up on the QFU boards. It is pure luck whether the CPU will wake up or not. I had reflowed and reballed the heck out of these things and never got any repeatable results. The QFU1.1 boards are so thin that they warp terribly. The QFU1.2 are a bit better in that respect. I am pretty sure that the CPU is to blame and not some balls. The infamous "K" error appears in both QFU1.1 and 1.2 models. Their board layout is different. It would be a big coincidence if the same balls broke. No, I think the CPU is to blame.

Only the case when the device is totally dead with a scrambled boot SPI has a 100% repair success rate. Alas, I only had that once. All others were CPU-related.

There are P120 CPUs (QFU1.1 and QFU1.2 6008 models) on eBay from Poland. They look legit. Unfortunately, the P240 CPU for the higher QFU1.2 models (7008, 8008) are not available.

I suggest that one reheat attempt (without full reflow because that's not the issue) at about 225°C can be done and if that doesn't fix it: dump it. Sad but true. A terrible TV series that was.

**Maalobs** · 06-18-2019, 02:49 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Hi, and thanks for your very detailed and well thought-out blog posts about repairs, I found them both educational and inspiring.

**amennone** · 06-23-2019, 03:55 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Salve , ho lo stesso problema codice errore 53 con Philips 55PFL8007K12
Telaio / Versione : QFU1.1E LA
Power Supply : FSP197-4FS01 2722 171 90676 REV : 01
Pannello : LTA550HQ19
Main board : 3104 308 98314
Il televisore si presenta completamente spento .
Le tensioni che leggo sono la 3v3s = 3v3 e la STB= 3v1
Ho riprogrammato la spiflash 7CT3 (M25P10) ,
sul pin 2 del connettore 1M95 la alimentazione
è passata a livello logico basso , da 3v1 a 0 volts .
La 12 volts , ora , è presente ,
come le altre alimentazioni sulla main -board .
Ma ottengo codice errore 53 .
Ho provato a collegarmi con Hyperterminal al jack di servizio ,
ottengo queste informazioni (vedi allegato )
Allego anche lettura della Spi 7CT3 prima della programmazione .
Il bin, che ho riprogrammato per la SPI è per un processore Fusion 77
Mentre il processore sulla main è un Fusion P240 FNP202-B1E32 .
Può essere questo il problema ?
Una altra domanda , perche con Hyperterminal ottengo questo log ?

Attached Files

**Davi.p** · 06-24-2019, 12:30 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Amennone di plcforum giusto? Qui devi scrivere in inglese! Controlla su plc una disc. recente di Ottaviucci, il problema e' il processore..

**amennone** · 06-24-2019, 04:30 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Hi, I have the same problem with error code 53 with Philips 55PFL8007K12
Chassis / Version: QFU1.1E LA
Power supply: FSP197-4FS01 2722 171 90676 REV: 01
Panel: LTA550HQ19 Card
mother: 3104 308 98314
The TV is completely turned off.
The voltages I read are 3v3s = 3v3 and STB = 3v1
I reprogrammed the spiflash 7CT3 (M25P10),
on pin 2 of connector 1M95 the power supply
it has gone to a low logic level, from 3v1 to 0 volts.
The 12 volt, now, is present,
like the other feeds on the mainboard.
But I get error code 53.
I tried connecting to Hyperterminal at the service jack,
I get this information (see attachment)
I also enclose the Spi 7CT3 reading before programming.
The trash, which I reprogrammed for SPI is for a processor,
is a Fusion P240 FNP202-B1E32.
Can this be the problem?
Another question, why do I get this log with Hyperterminal?

**Davi.p** · 06-25-2019, 04:12 PM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

And open up your own discussion,,this is already too fitted

**maki** · 08-08-2019, 02:27 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Hello
I was wondering if someone encountered a blank SPI ?
I have a 46pfl8008, it has 2 blinks on level1 and 53 on level 2.
Recovery isn’t working.
I’ve suspected the SPI (25p10) and because it’s the easiest chip to check.
I’ve used this programmer
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CH341A-Seri...53.m1438.l2649

with a clip
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Soic8-Sop8-...53.m2749.l2649

To my surprise, the chip was totally blank – all FFs.
Any ideas?

**hulko** · 01-27-2020, 11:29 AM

Re: Philips 60PFL8708S/12 - QFU1.2E LA - Error code 53

Hello, sorry i'm new
somebody can explein how i can activate the service modo on 60PFL8708S
because i'd like to try to re-install the original software before the boot of TV

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