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Old 09-26-2009, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default Samsung SyncMaster 226BW

I am completely new to the word of capacitors but recently my 2 year old Samsung SyncMaster 226BW [S] monitor began flickering during computer POST and go black. Sometimes I could turn the monitor off and on or switch from digital to analog and back to digital and normal picture would display but as days went by the monitor would flicker and go black, eventually the monitor would not even flicker but just show up black and the power button solid blue. Doing a google search of my symptoms led me to several helpful spots including this forum. I pried open the monitor and noticed several puffy capacitors, specifically C110, C111, and C112 as shown in the photograph.

I want to try replacing the capacitors but want to make sure I do it right the first time. I've never soldered before so I need the tools for the job as well as the capacitors. I live internationally from any of the electronic stores and want to make sure I order all the correct parts in one order to get the job done. Any links would be appreciated.

Here is a list of all the capacitors I could find on the PCB, all made by CapXon

C105 150uF 450v GL 105 C C640 VENT 20mm D x 42mm H
C107 47uF 50v GL 105 C C640 VENT 5mm D x 10mm H
C110 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H
C111 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H
C112 330uF 25v GL 105 C C638 VENT 10mm D x 15mm H
C301 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H
C302 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H

C110, C111, and C112 appear bad but should I go ahead and replace any others? I was considering replacing all of the except the big fatty C105.
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:41 PM   #2
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Default Re: Samsung SyncMaster 226BW

Here's what I would replace. I'm using Panasonic part numbers. Any low ESR caps from the other manufacturers on the 'Good caps list' would also work.

C107 47uF 50v GL 105 C C640 VENT 5mm D x 10mm H EEU-FC1H470
C110 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H EEU-FM1E821L *
C111 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H EEU-FM1E821L *
C112 330uF 25v GL 105 C C638 VENT 10mm D x 15mm H EEU-FM1E331
C301 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H EEU-FM1E681
C302 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H EEU-FM1E681

* Check the height on these. You might have to use EEU-FC1E821S instead

This cap has a low failure rate, but if I ignore it Toasty will get on my case.
C105 150uF 450v GL 105 C C640 VENT 20mm D x 42mm H EET-ED2W151BA

As far as a soldering iron and solder, I don't have any specific brands. My favorite iron has been out of production for several decades. Something in the 30 - 40 watt range would be good for this job. For solder, I use Kester brand low melt eutectic (63/37)

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Old 09-27-2009, 07:37 PM   #3
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:23 AM   #4
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:15 PM   #5
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Thanks for all the info PlainBill, I have one more question. How much does lead spacing matter? I noticed on a few capacitors the spacing are either 3.5mm and 5mm. I'm going to pry open my monitor one more time and try to measure it with accuracy but was wondering how much it mattered in the first place.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:21 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the info PlainBill, I have one more question. How much does lead spacing matter? I noticed on a few capacitors the spacing are either 3.5mm and 5mm. I'm going to pry open my monitor one more time and try to measure it with accuracy but was wondering how much it mattered in the first place.
Ideally the lead spacing should match. While I haven't checked every cap's specs, in my (limited) experience lead spacing for a given diameter is constant across the different manufacturers. It's obvious why this is so. A manufacturer who adopted a different lead spacing would find themselves at a considerable competitive disadvantage.

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Old 09-28-2009, 10:44 PM   #7
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Old 12-18-2009, 05:59 AM   #8
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Here's what I would replace. I'm using Panasonic part numbers. Any low ESR caps from the other manufacturers on the 'Good caps list' would also work.

C107 47uF 50v GL 105 C C640 VENT 5mm D x 10mm H EEU-FC1H470
C110 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H EEU-FM1E821L *
C111 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H EEU-FM1E821L *
C112 330uF 25v GL 105 C C638 VENT 10mm D x 15mm H EEU-FM1E331
C301 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H EEU-FM1E681
C302 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H EEU-FM1E681

* Check the height on these. You might have to use EEU-FC1E821S instead

This cap has a low failure rate, but if I ignore it Toasty will get on my case.
C105 150uF 450v GL 105 C C640 VENT 20mm D x 42mm H EET-ED2W151BA

As far as a soldering iron and solder, I don't have any specific brands. My favorite iron has been out of production for several decades. Something in the 30 - 40 watt range would be good for this job. For solder, I use Kester brand low melt eutectic (63/37)

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Hi guys,

Another 226BW owner with blown capacitors reporting in!

Awesome info in this thread so far, i have a question related to the quote above. I'm trying to avoiding paying shipping costs/extended delivery time and looking for a UK supplier. The problem i am having is with C110 and C111 listed above.

I have the same board layout as Krickster so fitting the 12mm wide capacitors is not an option, and i dont have the height available to fit the 25mm Shown above. I have found a possible solution in the EEUFK1E821 (panasonic part number) however it has a "Ripple" rating which the ones posted above dont, does this make a difference?

To the untrained eye it looks ok, but thought i had better check first.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:37 AM   #9
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Hi guys,

Another 226BW owner with blown capacitors reporting in!

Awesome info in this thread so far, i have a question related to the quote above. I'm trying to avoiding paying shipping costs/extended delivery time and looking for a UK supplier. The problem i am having is with C110 and C111 listed above.

I have the same board layout as Krickster so fitting the 12mm wide capacitors is not an option, and i dont have the height available to fit the 25mm Shown above. I have found a possible solution in the EEUFK1E821 (panasonic part number) however it has a "Ripple" rating which the ones posted above dont, does this make a difference?

To the untrained eye it looks ok, but thought i had better check first.
Good thing you did. That is a Panasonic FK series, and wouldn't do. Please note my comments in the original thread. I choose Panasonic because of my history of satisfaction with them. This is much like a man who keeps going back to the same pub. It's not like there are no other pubs available. It's a matter of it being familiar, and good.

This thread lists 'good' series of caps. There are several reliable manufacturers and series of caps listed. This thread lists possible sources of caps. In addition, there are a number of people here from the UK (Bobdee comes to mind), perhaps one of them can suggest a local supplier. While Digikey has excellent prices and low shipping costs to the USA, I am aware that is not true for customers who live in the rest of the world.

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.... In addition, there are a number of people here from the UK (Bobdee comes to mind), perhaps one of them can suggest a local supplier. ....

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I agree. Maybe Bob can tell you where he gets his stuff there in the UK
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Here's what I would replace. I'm using Panasonic part numbers. Any low ESR caps from the other manufacturers on the 'Good caps list' would also work.

C107 47uF 50v GL 105 C C640 VENT 5mm D x 10mm H EEU-FC1H470
C110 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H EEU-FM1E821L *
C111 820uF 25v GL 105 C C646 VENT 10mm D x 20mm H EEU-FM1E821L *
C112 330uF 25v GL 105 C C638 VENT 10mm D x 15mm H EEU-FM1E331
C301 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H EEU-FM1E681
C302 680uF 25v GL 105 C C650 VENT 10mm D x 17mm H EEU-FM1E681

* Check the height on these. You might have to use EEU-FC1E821S instead

This cap has a low failure rate, but if I ignore it Toasty will get on my case.
C105 150uF 450v GL 105 C C640 VENT 20mm D x 42mm H EET-ED2W151BA


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I recently replaced all the CapXon caps in my Samsung 226BW with the caps listed above with one exception:
Instead of using the 150uF cap noted above (which has a Snap-In termination), I used a Nichicon UPT2W151MRD, which is a leaded version, which is necessary since the part sits at a right angle. This one has a slightly lower ripple current rating than the Panasonic one, but I'm not sure how it actually compares to the original CapXon part. Hopefully this won't be an issue.... Has anybody measured the ripple current for this design?

Thanks to those who solved this problem before me!
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:59 PM   #12
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WHoops, never mind. I was replying to at other forum!

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Old 10-01-2009, 06:21 AM   #13
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I'm ordering the caps today but one question before I do. How should I go about replacing 150uF 450v capacitor? It appears to be laying on its side and glued to the board.
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I'm ordering the caps today but one question before I do. How should I go about replacing 150uF 450v capacitor?
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It appears to be laying on its side and glued to the board.
It is. The glue isn't very strong; it's to hold the part in place until it is soldered. Pry the old cap up (you could slit the plastic cover on it first), unsolder it, then carefully remove as much of the old glue as you can. Insert the new one (the glue is optional), then solder it in.

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cool..... my friend's monitor exhibited the same problem, which i had RMA it, think once the warranty is over, recap shd be done.
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:34 AM   #16
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Thanks, trying to order now but I don't understand the Digi-Key International Shipping charges. Sent them a message and awaiting a reply.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:25 PM   #17
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Capacitors $9
Shipping to the Cayman Islands $40
Duty fees on said capacitors $10
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Total $59

I'm going to see if I can have these shipped to some family in the U.S. and have them forward it to me. I can't beleive Digi-Key is charging that much for international shipping, such a rip-off. I recently bought a Dell Laptop power adapter from China and 2 GB of DDR Ram from the U.S. and the shipping for each of those items was under $10.

Thanks again for you help PlainBill
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111% Duty!! Holy Crap!

1 pound via 1st Class mail from US is $10.31.

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111% Duty!! Holy Crap!

1 pound via 1st Class mail from US is $10.31.

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Unfortunately, Digikey does not do international shipping by first class mail. Their cheapest international shipping method is Express mail, and that costs $30 and up.

It's been over 5 years since I shipped anything internationally, and it was a huge pain compared to domestic shipping. I could ship a one pound package by Fedex ground for $8.00 including tracking and delivery confirmation. It would take less than 5 minutes to prepare the paperwork, and another 5 to drop it off at Fedex.

The cheapest way to ship internationally then was the post office, but the local post office didn't always agree with the web site on the documentation required for a given country, and it always seemed I was waiting in line for half an hour or more while a clerk explained to someone 'This Side UP' is meaningless if you are shipping Aunt Tilly's favorite vase via parcel post.

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Don't get me started on Parcel Post I've had more packages destroyed via that method then any other.
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