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    #21
    Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

    INV-ERR is generated by the inverter circuit to tell the main board if there is problem in the inverter circuit or not. From my research, the normal Voltage of the INV-ERR should LOW if there is no problem with the inverter circuits.
    'Backlight' = bl-on is the command signal from the main board to turn on the inverter circuit. You should leave he meter on that pin then turn TV on to see if the Voltage jumps up for seconds or not.

    So did you replace that shorted out zener diode? Did you check the fusible resistor R6636? Did you check the Voltage by leaving the meter probe on the each pin of the connector CN660 when turn on the TV each time to see what you get, if look at the schematic I provided for the D1N board you can see that CN660 shows what Voltage you should have on the connector.

    BTW, so far I do not see the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards as requested.

    D2N inverter board also has the same Zener diode on the VCC pin to clamp the Voltage on the VCC pin of the IC, you may want to check them out too.
    Your TV uses two inverter boards for driving the lamps in push-pull mode so if one inverter board is bad you will see the screen lights up for seconds on one half of the screen (I.E left half or right half of the screen) that has good inverter board, did you notice that when you first turn on the TV? you have to do that in darken room.
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    Last edited by budm; 08-16-2018, 11:30 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      #22
      Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

      Originally posted by budm View Post
      INV-ERR is generated by the inverter circuit to tell the main board if there is problem in the inverter circuit or not. From my research, the normal Voltage of the INV-ERR should LOW if there is no problem with the inverter circuits.
      'Backlight' = bl-on is the command signal from the main board to turn on the inverter circuit. You should leave he meter on that pin then turn TV on to see if the Voltage jumps up for seconds or not.

      So did you replace that shorted out zener diode? Did you check the fusible resistor R6636? Did you check the Voltage by leaving the meter probe on the each pin of the connector CN660 when turn on the TV each time to see what you get, if look at the schematic I provided for the D1N board you can see that CN660 shows what Voltage you should have on the connector.

      BTW, so far I do not see the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards as requested.

      D2N inverter board also has the same Zener diode on the VCC pin to clamp the Voltage on the VCC pin of the IC, you may want to check them out too.
      Your TV uses two inverter boards for driving the lamps in push-pull mode so if one inverter board is bad you will see the screen lights up for seconds on one half of the screen (I.E left half or right half of the screen) that has good inverter board, did you notice that when you first turn on the TV? you have to do that in darken room.
      ---------------
      INV-ERR is generated by the inverter circuit to tell the main board if there is problem in the inverter circuit or not. From my research, the normal Voltage of the INV-ERR should LOW if there is no problem with the inverter circuits.
      'Backlight' = bl-on is the command signal from the main board to turn on the inverter circuit. You should leave he meter on that pin then turn TV on to see if the Voltage jumps up for seconds or not.

      So did you replace that shorted out zener diode?=(I do not have 15v zener diode in my hand, temporary just replaced one took off from different board but I donot know value of volt)I alrady order ebay and waiting- Did you check the fusible resistor R6636? (I check R6636 good and has continuity)Did you check the Voltage by leaving the meter probe on the each pin of the connector CN660 when turn on the TV each time to see what you get, if look at the schematic I provided for the D1N board you can see that CN660 shows what Voltage you should have on the connector. (CHECKED cn660-pri-vcc- 12v tv on) will check pfc and let you know thx

      BTW, so far I do not see the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards as requested.

      D2N inverter board also has the same Zener diode on the VCC pin to clamp the Voltage on the VCC pin of the IC, you may want to check them out too. I will check vcc ic pin connect to zener diode and let you know Thx
      Your TV uses two inverter boards for driving the lamps in push-pull mode so if one inverter board is bad you will see the screen lights up for seconds on one half of the screen (I.E left half or right half of the screen) that has good inverter board, did you notice that when you first turn on the TV? you have to do that in darken room.
      I WILL FOLLOW YOUR INTRUCTION AND CATCH UP STEP BY STEP FROM YOUR HELP Thank Budm

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        #23
        Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

        'Backlight' = bl-on is the command signal from the main board to turn on the inverter circuit. You should leave he meter on that pin then turn TV on to see if the Voltage jumps up for seconds or not.
        ((TV On or Off checked BL-on no voltage,,usually how many volt go to this Bl-on pin ? and where is the voltage come from inverter or from power su board?
        Although tv on or off, THE PROLEM IS NO VOLT at BL-on

        Thx Budm
        Last edited by mydang; 08-17-2018, 09:01 AM.

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          #24
          Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

          Hi! Budm so far i look at schematic D1N inverter when tv on i should have 12v volt at REG 12v of CN6702 i do not have volt at BL-on because it connect to REG 12v i will trace and test let you know

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            #25
            Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

            But on that connector you suppose to have PFC Voltage around 390Vdc also for the inverter circuit.
            BL-ON is from the main board, <1V = off, >2V = ON.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              #26
              Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

              Hi! Budm more understand when i look at D1N inverter board , may i have one power supply detail like D1N i google but i canot find if you have send me one please
              Thx
              Last edited by mydang; 08-17-2018, 10:05 AM.

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                #27
                Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                Originally posted by mydang View Post
                Hi! Budm more understand when i look at D1N inverter board , may i have one power supply detail like D1N i google but i canot find if you have send me one please
                Thx
                I do not understand, I already provide the schematic for the D1N board in post 10 and also the training manual in post 21.
                And D2N on this post.

                "may i have one power supply " what one power supply? what is the P/N as printed on the board?
                Attached Files
                Last edited by budm; 08-17-2018, 09:58 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  #28
                  Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                  hi! Budm
                  TV turn on,at CN6702 no 12volt at REG 12v pin so what is wrong? and why i do not have volt at REG 12v pin ? Thx

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                    #29
                    Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                    CN6702 of which board?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      #30
                      Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                      I still need to see the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards, and also board numbers.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #31
                        Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                        Originally posted by budm View Post
                        CN6702 of which board?
                        D1N inverter board

                        Thx

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                          #32
                          Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                          Originally posted by budm View Post
                          I still need to see the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards, and also board numbers.
                          although i can not repair but I start to learn from your experience

                          Thx

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                            #33
                            Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                            What do you mean you cannot repair?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              #34
                              Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                              Originally posted by budm View Post
                              What do you mean you cannot repair?
                              I was just going to ask that question and also why no pictures have been uploaded of his tv bit odd if someone genuine wants help that none have been uploaded

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                                #35
                                Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                                Right now it is pretty good that OP was able to find shorted out zener in D1N inverter board without guiding even though the blink code error (14-blink) has nothing to do with inverter board, so I hope he does not give up yet.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  #36
                                  Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                                  did he remove and test the diode out of circuit? just in case a false reading

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                                    #37
                                    Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                                    I think he did because the reading on the VCC pin of the IC no longer show low resistance reading after the Zener is removed.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      #38
                                      Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                                      Originally posted by mydang View Post
                                      hi! Budm
                                      TV turn on,at CN6702 no 12volt at REG 12v pin so what is wrong? and why i do not have volt at REG 12v pin ? Thx
                                      What is the P/N of your G board? G7N?
                                      btw:
                                      Originally posted by mydang View Post
                                      checked t-con fuse is 12 volts

                                      Thank you
                                      Since that reg 12V is the same reg 12V (see training manual) that feeds the T-CON, then I cannot see why you do not have reg 12v on CN6702.
                                      Please read the training manual CTV59 page 19 I provide, it is important that you get the basic idea how the Voltages are routed through out the set.
                                      Last edited by budm; 08-17-2018, 02:14 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        #39
                                        Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                                        well once hes replaced that diode with the correct voltage replacement, lets hope we can help him find the problem with his set but like you say pictures do help just in case his boards dont match the schematics etc

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                                          #40
                                          Re: sony kdl-46w5100 no red light standby, on green off red light flash 14 times

                                          Thank you Budm and vincer, Today i double check I already checked I have all vcc 12v and REG 12 and PFC-OUT 397V all the voltage on CN from D1N and power supply seem ok ,, I agree with Vincer about Zener diode i remove fron the board to replaced for one on D1N inverter not correct 15 voltage , i think the one i remove from board 3 or 5 volt
                                          may be it is not work right, so far Explain and send me schematic make me more understand ... i will learn from thall all gentlement here
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