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Old 04-28-2021, 05:35 AM   #4921
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Where are the antennas? Either install antennas or terminators or disable the RF amplifier. Running it like that will have the RF amp running with a very high SWR, which could damage or kill the RF amp if left unterminated.
In the box, I was just testing. Better turn it off then until I get it setup in a permanent location!

On a side note testing graphics cards

2080 super - working (some cosmetic issues but card itself working fine)
1080 ti - working
RX 550 XT - working

Rtx 2060 - not working. No power, looks like there are tiny caps & resisters missing around the vram. Looks to be a rejected rma as has stickers with arrows pointing to the missing components. Gigabyte usually do that. Apppears to be 1 resister and 1 cap from each vram module. Not sure why someone would remove as don’t think it was accidental

Rx 570 8gb - not working. Now power
Gtx 1060 - not working no display

Can’t believe got 3 working cards so for out of this lot, unbelievable for what I paid.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:36 PM   #4922
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It's been a smorgasbord this week!!

Some kind of camera setup from an EDU used for online classes....they told me it was ~12,000 bucks new....I forgot the name of it....but there's a lot to it.

HP Laserjet 3800N color laser printer. Paper tray has a broken tab on the feeder. I rigged it up well enough to test the printer, and it prints beautiful! Color toners are near full, black is about 50%. I can replace the tray for about 20 bucks; worth it IMO.

Several 22" 1080 ultrasharp monitors with the soundbars....yea, more monitors I know....but these are nicer ones.

2x Lenovo slimline i5 systems.

2x Dell full tower 755's, those will probably be scrapped.

a LG 1080 plasma TV. Not sure of the size, but it looks to be ~50" give or take, doesn't power up...haven't taken it apart yet.

a Samsung 43" 4k TV, has power issues...working on that one.

a 'neat' document scanner, power up but havent tested any further.
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Old 04-30-2021, 08:54 PM   #4923
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Today's freebies (that I was paid to take) were 3x CRT TV's. 2x 27" Sanyo's and a 36" Zenith. All work....but the vertical linearity is a little out of kilter on the Zenith....probably needs caps...lol... I normally don't take these....but I was trying to help someone out...
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WATCH OUT on that Zenith! If it's one of the 1990s console sets, check to see who made the CRT. If it's a Zenith-made CRT, junk it. Those like to short and take the HV section with it. Usual symptoms is no standby light, no power, unresponsive to remote.
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WATCH OUT on that Zenith! If it's one of the 1990s console sets, check to see who made the CRT. If it's a Zenith-made CRT, junk it. Those like to short and take the HV section with it. Usual symptoms is no standby light, no power, unresponsive to remote.
It was made in 1997; big table-top model. CRT seems to be ok. Bright & good color. Gonna try and rehome it.
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It was made in 1997; big table-top model. CRT seems to be ok. Bright & good color. Gonna try and rehome it.
That's good. Zenith had since switched to using RCA-made CRTs by the mid-1990s. RCA had a fairly strong controlling interest in Zenith by 1995. RCA made some pretty solid CRTs for consumer sets.
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On a side note testing graphics cards

2080 super - working (some cosmetic issues but card itself working fine)
1080 ti - working
RX 550 XT - working
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Can’t believe got 3 working cards so for out of this lot, unbelievable for what I paid.
That really is a mega score, especially considering the current situation with the chip shortages. Here where I am, you can't find an RTX card in *any* condition. And if you do find a working one for sale, prepare to get charge an arm, a leg, and quite possibly a kidney for it too.

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Several 22" 1080 ultrasharp monitors with the soundbars....yea, more monitors I know....but these are nicer ones.
I mean, 22" monitors are still fine everyday use as far as I'm concerned.

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2x Dell full tower 755's, those will probably be scrapped.
I guess Core 2 systems are no longer relevant to people anymore - at least not from a resale standpoint, thanks to Windows 10 being such a hog and requiring so much RAM and CPU power to run decently. Shame, because those Dell BTX systems are really reliable workhorses (well, save for bad caps in the PSUs and sometimes on the motherboard too, of course.)

And here I am soon to "update" my parents' PC to one of those Dell BTX towers (not sure if I'll use a Dimension E520 or an Optiplex 755/760). They already are on a C2D system, but it's in a custom case and the USB ports aren't in the handiest of places. And mobo is limited to only 2 memory slots and 2 GB (won't take 2 GB modules, I tried.) So it's really going to be more of a side-grade than an upgrade at this point... but it doesn't matter too much. Their PC just needs to be able to handle printer/scanner duty and the occasional banking websites (as some of them don't have very good tablet/Apple support, according to my mother - and if she's complaining, that means it really must be bad.)

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HP Laserjet 3800N color laser printer. Paper tray has a broken tab on the feeder. I rigged it up well enough to test the printer, and it prints beautiful! Color toners are near full, black is about 50%. I can replace the tray for about 20 bucks; worth it IMO.
Yessir.
Good color lasers are always worthwhile, especially if they come with nearly full toner.

I considered replacing my parents's printer about 2 years ago when it started printing scan-lines everywhere... but the options for a new printer on the market were depressing at best. There were some "disposable" laser printers that are very cheap, but their toners were said to not last worth anything (not even 200 pages!), and a new toner cost an arm and a leg - basically a cash-cow to sell and profit from toners. So that was a no-go.
The ink-junks won't work with my parents, because they need to print way too infrequently. So the thing will probably get clogged heads.
Used lasers are an option... but then finding one that's for sale because of an office moving and not because someone has printed and abused the living ghosts out of it is rare - at least around here. So I did a bit more research and figured a new fuser/drum assy might get their old printer going... and indeed that did the trick. $15 later got it working pretty well again. It's still not 100% perfect (looks like the new drum is also a bit "spotty" in terms of print quality), but overall much better than the old one.)

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I mean, 22" monitors are still fine everyday use as far as I'm concerned.
...and 1080, that's all most seem to care about..

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Systems like the 380 can accept Xeon mods (5450's are great), and with DDR3 (can take 8gb) + SSD, run 10 nicely actually. These are just in poor condition.....but since the end of the covid panic, towered PC sales are back to the toilet again.

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Yessir.
Good color lasers are always worthwhile, especially if they come with nearly full toner.
I also grabbed a 500 sheet additional tray that the entire printer sits on. Tray 2 was the broken one, got one for $28 shipped. Tray 3 is the new addition, it was another $30 shipped. The reason they said they didn't fix the tray issue was when they "upgraded" to win10, it wasn't printing right using the 10 embedded driver. Color was all messed up. I was able to replicate the issue....and in the process of troubleshooting realized the machine had the original/first-release firmware on it. I updated it to the latest firmware, the issue was cured. I love inept IT guys that can't seem to fix things like that.
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...and 1080, that's all most seem to care about..
Oh. Ugh.... For some reason I thought these would be 16:10's.
Well, don't get me wrong, they're still worthwhile monitors. I just prefer a little more vertical resolution personally... of course not so much like the vertical tiktok video crap trend. Double ugh!!!

At least 1080p 16:9 will do fine for YT... errr, sorry I meant "productivity".

On a side note, I always get a fun kick out of when I stumble upon an old YT video that was uploaded in proper 4:3 and fits perfectly on my CRTs. *sheds a tear of joy*:

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These are just in poor condition.....but since the end of the covid panic, towered PC sales are back to the toilet again.
Interesting.
Here, PCs (of all kinds) are still in fairly steady demand. Maybe not as before when Covid kicked in, but still there.

If you're planning on scrapping those Optiplex cases, I actually might have a use for a few pieces if yours still have them. Will have to check exact parts, but off top of my head, I *think* a front optical drive bay area bezel plastic cover (not the part that covers the 5.25" slot itself, but the one that goes around all of them) and rear metal expansion card door/cover + plastic part. And maybe some parts for the plastic latch mechanism... but again, I'll have to check... and again, only if you're planning on scraping those cases, of course. I don't really "need" these parts, but would be nice for the sake of completion.

Also, I don't imagine your 755's came with RS232 and 2x PS/2 expansion bracket? Kind of a rare item (and I made one myself for one of my Dimensions that doesn't have the mobo header), but neat if wanting to add PS/2 support to one of these machines.

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The reason they said they didn't fix the tray issue was when they "upgraded" to win10, it wasn't printing right using the 10 embedded driver. Color was all messed up. I was able to replicate the issue....and in the process of troubleshooting realized the machine had the original/first-release firmware on it. I updated it to the latest firmware, the issue was cured. I love inept IT guys that can't seem to fix things like that.
Well, you committed wizardry there that only the most elite of IT men are allowed to posses.

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Oh. Ugh.... For some reason I thought these would be 16:10's.
Well, don't get me wrong, they're still worthwhile monitors. I just prefer a little more vertical resolution personally... of course not so much like the vertical tiktok video crap trend. Double ugh!!!

At least 1080p 16:9 will do fine for YT... errr, sorry I meant "productivity".

On a side note, I always get a fun kick out of when I stumble upon an old YT video that was uploaded in proper 4:3 and fits perfectly on my CRTs. *sheds a tear of joy*:
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At work the only things that aren't 1080p are some laptops (such as mine; the Latitude rugged series doesn't come in a 1080p version AFAIK). Everything else is 1080p or higher (external monitors, etc.). Heck, I've saved 1080's from the recycle bin for work use (can't take that home sadly!). Most recently, a 24" AOC clear polycarb unit with one bad backlight LED (not super noticable)... it had been used on a camera system for our tube mill (and was COVERED in nasty oil residue); I pulled it and after 10 minutes of elbow grease (and a lot of spray cleaner), I cleaned it most of the way up (as much as I can do without a teardown). Was fun fitting it on my desk (with another 24" 1080 plus my laptop and it's dock (whose screen I do use in this setup, for a total of three screens), but it works...

However, at home, aside from three LCDs (two of which were Topcat tradebait for the 4U Racks), nothing is 1080... I agree, for a given diagonal size, 16:10 feels bigger. Hence why the 22" 1080's from Topcat went to my wife, not to me (as they don't seems like an upgrade from the 22" HP professional 16:10 LCDs on my nicest system).

And then there's the workhorse system in my basement (what I find myself using the most, like right now)... with big bertha, the 24" FD Trintron in it's 16:10 glory, a whopping 2560x1600 @ 75hz. (so fine, I have to run windows 10 scaled to 150% to make it usable). The only downside (besides space, weight, power usage, and needing frequent manual degaussing) is that since it's VGA, long-term GPU support is an issue (most modern HMI/Display port to VGA adapters won't do that resolution, or much in the way of 16:10). My system has a GTX970 GPU, one of the last Nvidia's to support VGA (via a DVI passive adapter).
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Only bought a couple of items today at carboot as my pile is getting a bit too much, need to get rid of some stuff before buying more.

Dreamcast complete with controllers £25

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Reading some of your findings puts mine to shame, but oh well, better something than zilch - found a still working PS3 Classic close to the trash next to my home. No controllers, but maybe I can figure something out later.
Btw. I'm kind of amazed that people would throw out a working console, especially on such times. On the other hand it's older now, newer consoles are getting slightly less expensive and common.
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At work the only things that aren't 1080p are some laptops (such as mine; the Latitude rugged series doesn't come in a 1080p version AFAIK). Everything else is 1080p or higher (external monitors, etc.). Heck, I've saved 1080's from the recycle bin for work use (can't take that home sadly!). Most recently, a 24" AOC clear polycarb unit with one bad backlight LED (not super noticable)... it had been used on a camera system for our tube mill (and was COVERED in nasty oil residue); I pulled it and after 10 minutes of elbow grease (and a lot of spray cleaner), I cleaned it most of the way up (as much as I can do without a teardown). Was fun fitting it on my desk (with another 24" 1080 plus my laptop and it's dock (whose screen I do use in this setup, for a total of three screens), but it works...

However, at home, aside from three LCDs (two of which were Topcat tradebait for the 4U Racks), nothing is 1080... I agree, for a given diagonal size, 16:10 feels bigger. Hence why the 22" 1080's from Topcat went to my wife, not to me (as they don't seems like an upgrade from the 22" HP professional 16:10 LCDs on my nicest system).

And then there's the workhorse system in my basement (what I find myself using the most, like right now)... with big bertha, the 24" FD Trintron in it's 16:10 glory, a whopping 2560x1600 @ 75hz. (so fine, I have to run windows 10 scaled to 150% to make it usable). The only downside (besides space, weight, power usage, and needing frequent manual degaussing) is that since it's VGA, long-term GPU support is an issue (most modern HMI/Display port to VGA adapters won't do that resolution, or much in the way of 16:10). My system has a GTX970 GPU, one of the last Nvidia's to support VGA (via a DVI passive adapter).

I'm still running a pretty good hodge-podge of displays.
ViewSonic VA903mb, 1280x1024 (5:4)
ViewSonic VG730m, 1280x1024 (5:4)
Acer V206HQL, 1600x900 (16:9)
Dell 1704FPT, 1280x1024 (5:4)
Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 710, 1440x1080 (4:3)
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The smorgasbord continues!!

The monitors bred...again!!



24" Polaroid TV...doesn't power up, probably needs caps.



13" TV/VCR combo; works.



13" TV; works.



Playstation2; works.



A couple VCR's. The one in the box has never been used.



A custom build in another awesomesauce coolermaster case.... Motherboard appears to be bad. Powers up but won't post. I'm guessing buzzed by lightning. The onboard NIC is already taped off and marked 'bad', typical of lightning/surge damage.







50" LG Plasma. Has power issues, haven't looked into it yet....and a 43" Samsung 4k in the background...



53" Scepter.....fixed for someone....

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RCA had a fairly strong controlling interest in Zenith by 1995. RCA made some pretty solid CRTs for consumer sets.
And then, RCA was hit-and-miss at best by later-on in the '00s!

In fact, I came across a 2005 RCA CRT TV with the dreaded "clicks off to standby syndrome".
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Oh. Ugh.... For some reason I thought these would be 16:10's.
Well, don't get me wrong, they're still worthwhile monitors. I just prefer a little more vertical resolution personally... of course not so much like the vertical tiktok video crap trend. Double ugh!!!

At least 1080p 16:9 will do fine for YT... errr, sorry I meant "productivity".
I looked at these closer.....they're 2007WFPb; 16:10 but 20" not 22.... :-/ I believe those are 1680x1050....but I'm with you completely on 16:9 versus 16:10. 16:9 is fine for a TV, but on a monitor I want the extra vertical real estate! I will never replace my 3x 30" 16:10's.....if I can't fix them when they die, I'll find more like 'em!!
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Looks like the PSU possibly killed the Asus P5N-D.
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Looks like the PSU possibly killed the Asus P5N-D.
I have no idea, I haven't dug into it at all. I was just admiring the case.
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