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Old 10-24-2011, 07:27 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Not enough new wireless devices suporting 5GHz operation

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The main products of concern are media devices, notebooks, netbooks and handheld devices with wireless networking capability.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:03 PM   #2
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Default Re: Not enough new wireless devices suporting 5GHz operation

Yep, I wholeheartedly agree.

I have a D-Link DIR-855 Quadband Router, 2.4GHz/5.0GHz and the only kit that links at 5.0GHz is my laptop - and that's because of the fact I installed a better network card, Intel 4965AGN, and added a third wireless antenna within the laptop lid.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:18 PM   #3
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It's going to be a while. Look at USB 3.0 - been around for years, just now barely starting to show up on new consumer stuff.

Also why does this guy never look at the camera?
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:03 PM   #4
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Who needs it?

Give me wired networking over wireless anyday... All houses should be built with cat6 cabling.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:08 PM   #5
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Who needs it?

Give me wired networking over wireless anyday... All houses should be built with cat6 cabling.
For me (and I imagine a whole lot of others) it's not a case of need, more a case of wanting it for simplicity, convenience and ease of use. I use wired and wireless, the method of connection for different equipment chosen dependant on my particular requirements for that equipment.

Wireless is the way forward, but each to his own
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:24 PM   #6
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Who needs it?

Give me wired networking over wireless anyday... All houses should be built with cat6 cabling.
Agreed
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:28 PM   #7
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For me (and I imagine a whole lot of others) it's not a case of need, more a case of wanting it for simplicity, convenience and ease of use. I use wired and wireless, the method of connection for different equipment chosen dependant on my particular requirements for that equipment.

Wireless is the way forward, but each to his own
It's nice to have wireless... I watch EEV Blog and Starcraft replays in the washroom. Also Red Letter Media sometimes... But for them to keep developing this... I don't know how healthy wireless is. Wireless routers are not as unhealthy as bluetooth or cellphone near the brain, but I imagine the faster they make it, the more unhealthy...

I have a simple G router in my house with linux on it, it fits my needs...
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:14 PM   #8
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It's nice to have wireless... I watch EEV Blog and Starcraft replays in the washroom. Also Red Letter Media sometimes... But for them to keep developing this... I don't know how healthy wireless is. Wireless routers are not as unhealthy as bluetooth or cellphone near the brain, but I imagine the faster they make it, the more unhealthy...

I have a simple G router in my house with linux on it, it fits my needs...
Sure, that's the most important factor - whatever suits you and your situation, requirements, setup etc.. And portability has plenty of advantages.

As for health issues, I tend not to worry about radio waves; breathing and inhaling this shitty Earth atmosphere is most probably doing me more harm than anything else in my environment...
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Sure, that's the most important factor - whatever suits you and your situation, requirements, setup etc.. And portability has plenty of advantages.

As for health issues, I tend not to worry about radio waves; breathing and inhaling this shitty Earth atmosphere is most probably doing me more harm than anything else in my environment...
the main reason I am thinking of upgrading my laptop to an 3 antenna N dualband card is range. There are times where the increased range helps a lot in my usage.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:19 PM   #10
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This is my current configuration -

Wired:
- Router
- PC #1

Wireless:
- PC #2
- 3x laptops
- Mobile phone
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the main reason I am thinking of upgrading my laptop to an 3 antenna N dualband card is range. There are times where the increased range helps a lot in my usage.
You got a big house then?

My place is small so range isn't that important right now. The main advantage of my wireless connections is simply that - no wires!

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Old 10-24-2011, 11:49 PM   #12
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You got a big house then?

My place is small so range isn't that important right now. The main advantage of my wireless connections is simply that - no wires!
not at home so much.

more like college campus... and other places.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:55 PM   #13
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Gotcha. I was a bit dumb there, not thinking of you being out and about with your laptop. My only usage outdoors is with my phone, but my Network provides my internet connection - now and then I may hookup to the local McD's when I'm there.
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:09 AM   #14
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Default Re: Not enough new wireless devices suporting 5GHz operation

why are we so worried about 5ghz? 802.11g is still not perfect-I've had wireless routers still not like some adapters. Some N/G routers have trouble in mixed mode. Why is 54mbps not sufficient now a days?
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why are we so worried about 5ghz? 802.11g is still not perfect-I've had wireless routers still not like some adapters. Some N/G routers have trouble in mixed mode. Why is 54mbps not sufficient now a days?
5ghz is better than 2.4ghz... 2.4ghz anymore is so crowded with crap.. cordless phones, bluetooth, wireless mice and keyboards,etc. 5ghz is much less used and allows for better signal quality.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:32 AM   #16
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why are we so worried about 5ghz? 802.11g is still not perfect-I've had wireless routers still not like some adapters. Some N/G routers have trouble in mixed mode. Why is 54mbps not sufficient now a days?
My router and wireless adapters are all D-Link so work flawlessly together, as does the Intel adapter. All are Draft-N and I get 270Mb/s
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:23 AM   #17
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You may get a 270Mbps connection but how much can you get through? Does the D-Link offer Gigabit which would be required to get anything above 100Mbps?
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:16 PM   #18
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HAHA good question! I think the best it's done is just under 80Mb/s. But it does have 4x Gigabit LAN ports (I only use one ATM).
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Well I think the problem is that the wireless frequencies are all so saturated at this point that any new channel used is just a temporary fix. For example everybody says the 2.4GHz has so much interference, great let's just use 5GHz. Another short while until everybody has that same idea and oh dear now 5GHx is saturated and susceptible to interference!
That's just going to be an endless cycle,

PS: I never figured out why (on my Netgear router for example) it's got 300Mbps wireless but not gigabit ethernet ports (only 10/100)...WTF? Isn't that making it totally useless?
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Well I think the problem is that the wireless frequencies are all so saturated at this point that any new channel used is just a temporary fix. For example everybody says the 2.4GHz has so much interference, great let's just use 5GHz. Another short while until everybody has that same idea and oh dear now 5GHx is saturated and susceptible to interference!
That's just going to be an endless cycle,

PS: I never figured out why (on my Netgear router for example) it's got 300Mbps wireless but not gigabit ethernet ports (only 10/100)...WTF? Isn't that making it totally useless?

wifi-to-wifi communication has greater throughput then wired in that case

maybe some future specification will have a dynamic range capable of thousands of channels with a great ghz/thz range, but we still have to overcome problems
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