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Old 04-13-2012, 06:27 PM   #61
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Default Re: VX 724 black screen green light flashing

I see a couple voltage regulators (3-pin device) on the left side of the logic board below the Toroid choke. Please the number and the voltage reading on 3 pins. Also try heat up the logic board with hair dryer to see if it changes the picture quality after 2~3 minutes of heat.
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:35 AM   #62
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Jumper should be on 6.5 for a 17 inch panel

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Old 04-14-2012, 01:45 PM   #63
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I see a couple voltage regulators (3-pin device) on the left side of the logic board below the Toroid choke. Please the number and the voltage reading on 3 pins. Also try heat up the logic board with hair dryer to see if it changes the picture quality after 2~3 minutes of heat.
I can't read the number but It says something like "xxx 5FAL - 1117L".

The readings are (with the black lead on ground)

Vr1

Pin 1: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 3: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2-1: 0 Ohm
Pin 2-3: 197 Ohm

Vr2

Pin 1: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 3: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2-1: 0 Ohm
Pin 2-3: 197 Ohm

Vr3 (on the board with the VTI 03601)

Pin 1: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2-1: 0 Ohm
Pin 2-3: 127 Ohm

(From the power board, LEFT to RIGHT).

I don't have a hair dryer. Is it the same if I use my hot air gun?

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Jumper should be on 6.5 for a 17 inch panel

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Old 04-14-2012, 04:10 PM   #64
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Pin 1: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 2: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
Pin 3: 13,2v AC --- 2v DC
1117 voltage regulators output DC voltage (not AC). Put your black probe on a ground screw. Put your red probe on each pin. Put your multimeter on 20V DC if manual. Retest and report new readings.

If your readings are actually 2V DC for each pin, then all your voltage regulators are shorted. That would make sense since pin 1-2 readings are 0 ohms. Alternatively, something else on the logic board is shorted making it look like all your voltage regulators are shorted.
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #65
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@retiredcaps - he has a picture its just a bit fuzzy -would he get that if all 1117s are shorted or he had a short on the board
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:13 PM   #66
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@retiredcaps - he has a picture its just a bit fuzzy -would he get that if all 1117s are shorted or he had a short on the board
I believe it is possible. Just a couple of days ago we had this case of a shaky jittery image due to a voltage regulator running at 1.2V instead of 1.8V DC. So if the 1117s are supposed to output 1.8V and they are outputting 2.0V, it could cause fuzziness.

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Old 04-14-2012, 09:48 PM   #67
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Okay then, I'm gonna find these voltage regulators on the market because if I buy them on eBay, it'll take at least 15 bussiness days.
But first of all, I'll have to look for the number of the resistors.


I found the service manual for this monitor. It says that if the display color is "abnormal" then I should check U3 (which is a voltage regulator). I'm looking at the diagrams and it seems that VR are shorted, the output should be 3.3v insted of 2v ...

Is it OK if I replace it with AS-1117? It's a 3-pin voltage regulator and the output is 3.3v and 800mA.

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Old 04-14-2012, 10:03 PM   #68
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Is it OK if I replace it with AS-1117? It's a 3-pin voltage regulator and the output is 3.3v and 800mA.
The original part number has no suffix to denote an output voltage so it sounds like an adjustable voltage regulator not a fixed one.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:19 PM   #69
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I looked at the service manual for the logic board power supply section, it looks like it uses the adjustable 1117 series, it also has 5v step-down switching regulator also so you may want to check those caps.. The stuff in the dash line are not used, I believe.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:04 PM   #70
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The original part number has no suffix to denote an output voltage so it sounds like an adjustable voltage regulator not a fixed one.
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I looked at the service manual for the logic board power supply section, it looks like it uses the adjustable 1117 series, it also has 5v step-down switching regulator also so you may want to check those caps.. The stuff in the dash line are not used, I believe.
I fully recapped the board, so caps are new and working. I'm gonna buy new voltage regulators on Monday, they're not expensive at all.

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Old 04-14-2012, 11:11 PM   #71
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I'm gonna buy new voltage regulators on Monday, they're not expensive at all.
Desolder the old ones and verify they are shorted out of circuit.

I have a Dell monitor and both voltage regulators on the logic board are shorted. So it is not the first time that all the voltage regulators on a board have been shorted.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:59 PM   #72
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I'm trying but I can't desolder the VR. I guess I'll just have to wait and buy a rework station. I've been waiting for it for almost 20 days. There're some troubles importing products.
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I'm trying but I can't desolder the VR.
From the same referenced thread in post #66

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Old 04-15-2012, 10:55 AM   #74
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Great. I took the coil and some caps off because the space is reduced. After that, I desoldered the VR
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I cut the legs and add more solder to the tab, the trick is to use wide tip soldering iron with at least 40watts.
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I cut the legs and add more solder to the tab, the trick is to use wide tip soldering iron with at least 40watts.
Is your definition of wide at least 3.2mm? I have one of these tips on order as my current one is 1.6mm.
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I use Weller PTC7 (1/8", 3mm) for de-soldering works and PTA7 for soldering work on my old faithful Weller soldering station.
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I changed the VR and still no joy :/ I replaced them with AS1117.

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What voltage reading are you getting now?
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Now less than 2v but I think that I burned some caps using the soldering iron. I burned the plastic of a couple of them (even though I took them off for soldering the VR).
A couple of minutes ago, I got more than 9v more or less.
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