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Old 09-17-2018, 04:10 AM   #2321
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well their should also be a "colored citizen" with it,
so yes, totally racist - no white citizen included!!
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Got a Fisher RS-2010 stereo receiver on Saturday. Works fine, except for the center of channel and signal strength meters are seized, and all but 4 or 5 bulbs are burned out (19 total). Made the 1st week of February 1980, and it was sitting in a cabin since 1995.
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well their should also be a "colored citizen" with it,
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Was also given 2x Cisco Aironet 1200 PoE access points.
I finally got around to working with these. Configuring them as a normal stand-alone WPA2 access point is easier said than done.....and cisco's documentation is absolutely worthless for configuring in either the CLI (console port) or the web-based GUI....they really were intended to be used in conjunction with a radius server (either with other Cisco hardware or a windows radius server). I did actually get that to work...though it was tricky, it was very cool how it worked, but a gross overkill configuration for what I needed....especially when considering all the additional hardware & software dependencies it created....but I knew there had to be a way to run them using WPA2.... I finally had to consult the interwebs and some british bloke on youtube walked through the process and the obscure setting that was missed everywhere else. Now they work like champs! The reason I wanted these working is the PoE function....I can mount them up in the attic of my house and shop and not have to run power up there.
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The reason I wanted these working is the PoE function....I can mount them up in the attic of my house and shop and not have to run power up there.
Why not Ceiling mount them? Less heat stress, better wireless reception, and easier diagnostics if you do such...
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I finally got around to working with these. Configuring them as a normal stand-alone WPA2 access point is easier said than done.....and cisco's documentation is absolutely worthless for configuring in either the CLI (console port) or the web-based GUI....they really were intended to be used in conjunction with a radius server (either with other Cisco hardware or a windows radius server). I did actually get that to work...though it was tricky, it was very cool how it worked, but a gross overkill configuration for what I needed....especially when considering all the additional hardware & software dependencies it created....but I knew there had to be a way to run them using WPA2.... I finally had to consult the interwebs and some british bloke on youtube walked through the process and the obscure setting that was missed everywhere else. Now they work like champs! The reason I wanted these working is the PoE function....I can mount them up in the attic of my house and shop and not have to run power up there.
Cisco makes different firmware for their APs -- you can install a version to work with a WLC or as a standalone access point. I've reflashed all of mine (I have a box full of them) as standalone APs as I don't want to have to run Cisco's WLC software (in a VM).

[Cisco locks up their firmware downloads -- support contract -- but its relatively easy to find what you want/need. Hardest part is getting the correct "file name"]

I replaced my 1200's (a/b/g?) with 1142's (a/g/n) as they are a bit sexier to look at (no external antenna like the 1200s). Plus the 'n' support (I think you can buy a separate radio for the 1200's to get that capability but it adds two more antenna and starts to become too techy looking).

I have a couple mounted on the ceilings of closets in the house. This makes them accessible yet not eyesores. And, it's easy to examine the indicator LEDs to verify their functionality. I installed another in the garage and one more out in the back yard. Each has a separate drop from the switch so I need only use the one(s) that best service a particular "client area". And, of course, I can dial-down the signal level so I'm not talking to the whole neighborhood!

[My switch effectively provides a firewall-per-port so I can keep unwanted traffic off the fabric before it gets a foothold "inside"]

I'm gutting the rest of them and repurposing the cases for BT APs

Keep in mind that you may need to physically access them (console port) at a later time.

Also, Cisco makes a variety of different mounting brackets. I opted to mount my APs to metal Jboxes and so chose the bracket that accommodates that. Also chose to install the dorky little padlocks (which all have the same nominal keying) so the AP can't casually be removed -- to prevent casual damage to the network cable that can't be removed until the AP is separated from the bracket.

[The brackets for each AP series are slightly different. E.g., IIRC, the 1200s have THREE little "nubs" that slide into keyhole slots in the bracket. The 1142's have 4 -- so, the brackets are incompatible. Additionally, the "standard" 1142 bracket is intended for wall mounting so there is not much space for the cable to exit under the bracket -- as would be necessary if Jbox mounting. Hence the need for the "other" bracket style. IIRC, the 1200s have a bracket that sets the AP off the mounting surface so you can snake the cables under the AP.]

You can power them directly via Cisco's 48V wall wart -- if you don't have PoE capability. And, Cisco makes/sells a midspan injector ("Type B" approximator) for folks who don't have PoE switches to exploit the network wiring as a power delivery method. (not "true" PoE but Cisco's approximation thereof).

https://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Aironet.../dp/B00015FLMQ

It's little more than a big piece of plastic and a few wires connecting the 48VDC power inlet to the RJ45 downstream outlet

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Why not Ceiling mount them? Less heat stress, better wireless reception, and easier diagnostics if you do such...
And nasty hanging crap from the ceiling.
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Cisco makes different firmware for their APs -- you can install a version to work with a WLC or as a standalone access point. I've reflashed all of mine (I have a box full of them) as standalone APs as I don't want to have to run Cisco's WLC software (in a VM).

[Cisco locks up their firmware downloads -- support contract -- but its relatively easy to find what you want/need. Hardest part is getting the correct "file name"]

I replaced my 1200's (a/b/g?) with 1142's (a/g/n) as they are a bit sexier to look at (no external antenna like the 1200s). Plus the 'n' support (I think you can buy a separate radio for the 1200's to get that capability but it adds two more antenna and starts to become too techy looking).

I have a couple mounted on the ceilings of closets in the house. This makes them accessible yet not eyesores. And, it's easy to examine the indicator LEDs to verify their functionality. I installed another in the garage and one more out in the back yard. Each has a separate drop from the switch so I need only use the one(s) that best service a particular "client area". And, of course, I can dial-down the signal level so I'm not talking to the whole neighborhood!

[My switch effectively provides a firewall-per-port so I can keep unwanted traffic off the fabric before it gets a foothold "inside"]

I'm gutting the rest of them and repurposing the cases for BT APs

Keep in mind that you may need to physically access them (console port) at a later time.

Also, Cisco makes a variety of different mounting brackets. I opted to mount my APs to metal Jboxes and so chose the bracket that accommodates that. Also chose to install the dorky little padlocks (which all have the same nominal keying) so the AP can't casually be removed -- to prevent casual damage to the network cable that can't be removed until the AP is separated from the bracket.

[The brackets for each AP series are slightly different. E.g., IIRC, the 1200s have THREE little "nubs" that slide into keyhole slots in the bracket. The 1142's have 4 -- so, the brackets are incompatible. Additionally, the "standard" 1142 bracket is intended for wall mounting so there is not much space for the cable to exit under the bracket -- as would be necessary if Jbox mounting. Hence the need for the "other" bracket style. IIRC, the 1200s have a bracket that sets the AP off the mounting surface so you can snake the cables under the AP.]

You can power them directly via Cisco's 48V wall wart -- if you don't have PoE capability. And, Cisco makes/sells a midspan injector ("Type B" approximator) for folks who don't have PoE switches to exploit the network wiring as a power delivery method. (not "true" PoE but Cisco's approximation thereof).

https://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Aironet.../dp/B00015FLMQ

It's little more than a big piece of plastic and a few wires connecting the 48VDC power inlet to the RJ45 downstream outlet
Feel free to post these firmwares....I'd like to tinker with them. These came with their wall wart, PoE injector, and bracket. It also has the upgrade radio with extra antennas (4x per unit), so they are a little unsightly....closet or attic they go...

I have an old Linksys in the shop attic now....been up there since 2010....and in the summer heat, its gotta be 150* up there....how it still works is beyond me, but it's never missed a beat!!
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^ How can you people think radios are unsightly?
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Feel free to post these firmwares....I'd like to tinker with them. These came with their wall wart, PoE injector, and bracket. It also has the upgrade radio with extra antennas (4x per unit), so they are a little unsightly....closet or attic they go...

I have an old Linksys in the shop attic now....been up there since 2010....and in the summer heat, its gotta be 150* up there....how it still works is beyond me, but it's never missed a beat!!
The server that I use to access my archive media is busy copying "solaris update" volumes, currently (so I can't get at the "equipment" archive media).

But, http://sfree.ws/main_group?id=3 is where you want to hunt for "accessible" copies of the files (for the Aironet serieses). Not all versions will be present (they rely on folks to upload stuff) but it is amazing "collection" (for various pieces of Cisco kit).

A search for "<whatever> site:sfree.ws" is probably easier than trying to browse the site to find what you're after.

AP will have the firmware that was (factory) installed printed on the radio (module). What's actually inside may be different (use the Console or web UI to get the actual name/version).

There's a system behind the naming. E.g., http://sfree.ws/model?main_group_id=...&model_id=1300 is the page for my 1142 (1140 series). Most recent release tends to be near the top (I think you can sort out how the numbers are "ordered").

First link (from there -- again, 1140 series) brings you to a page that lists all of the image files for the 15.3.3-JD9(ED) release. On that page, you will see that the files are named:
<series>-<type>-tar.<release>.tar
So, "c1140-k9w7-tar.153-3.JD9.tar" is the 1140 series, 15.3.3-JD9 release. The "k9w7" refers to "Wireless LAN" (standalone access point) firmware; "k9w8" is "Wireless LAN LWAP (lightweight access point -- requires a WLC); "rcvk9w8" is a recovery image.

These "codes" will be used consistently throughout the series. So, "c1140-k9w7-tar.153-3.JD8.tar" is the Wireless LAN firmware for the 1140 series release 15.3.3-JD8.
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^ How can you people think radios are unsightly?
I've been "on a mission" to hide ALL of the electronics residing in the "living portion" of the house -- including thermostats, dvd players, "stereos", doorbells, speakers, etc. (TVs are hard to hide). So, lots of things on (or IN!) ceilings, closets, inside walls, etc. Likewise all of the associated wall warts/bricks.

But, I probably have an order of magnitude more "things" than most folks so there's a bigger incentive to do this!

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^ Fair enough. The peak power usage my home has achieved is 4kW, so i don't really have much to try and hide.....

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^ Fair enough. The peak power usage my home has achieved is 4kW, so i don't really have much to try and hide.....
Its not the amount of power but, rather, the number of "consumers". There often aren't enough "normal" (duplex) outlets in a room to connect all of the various bits that need to be line powered!

E.g., a thermostat draws very little power -- but takes up space on a wall. Ditto a doorbell. Speakers draw nothing unless in use -- but don't "store" themselves when idle. Ditto DVD players, stereos, telephone/ans machine, etc.

I've taken to powering everything over the network so I can kill two birds with one stone: providing the "service" and the power for that service!

The CO/smoke detectors present a special challenge... not sure I want to risk tinkering with them on the off chance that I screw them up!
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But, http://sfree.ws/main_group?id=3 is where you want to hunt for "accessible" copies of the files (for the Aironet serieses). Not all versions will be present (they rely on folks to upload stuff) but it is amazing "collection" (for various pieces of Cisco kit).
Well so much for that...... I tried the FW on one of the spares in the junk box (base models missing power supplies), but good lab rats. Using the FW for the model, it bricked it. Can't even access it through console anymore.
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^ How can you people think radios are unsightly?
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