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    #21
    Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

    Do you use the same HDD for Windows 7 and XP?
    When you install the OS are you connected to the internet via a firewall?
    Have you zero filled (wiped clean) the HDD before installing OS?
    Have you scanned your installation and update media for rootkits?
    Trying to narrow down if hardware or software problem
    Your PSU has not been ruled out nor has the CPU as yet.

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      #22
      Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

      Have you checked the crystal .
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        #23
        Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

        Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
        Check to see if you have the switches connected in the correct pins on the header.
        No switches connected - just motherboard on a wooden surface, touching jumper momentarily to necessary places
        better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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          #24
          Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

          Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
          Do you use the same HDD for Windows 7 and XP?
          No

          Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
          When you install the OS are you connected to the internet via a firewall?
          No, completely isolated

          Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
          Have you zero filled (wiped clean) the HDD before installing OS?
          Yes, using manufacturers' diagnostics

          Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
          Have you scanned your installation and update media for rootkits?
          No, but I am using Win7 SP1 with update, downloaded from Digital River when it was available, and SHA1 checked before burning to DVD

          And same DVD has been used many times, without issue

          Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
          Your PSU has not been ruled out nor has the CPU as yet.
          Have tried multiple PSUs and CPUs
          Last edited by pfrcom; 02-12-2019, 06:51 PM.
          better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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            #25
            Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

            Originally posted by SMDFlea View Post
            Have you checked the crystal .
            No - how do you check crystal?
            better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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              #26
              Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

              Originally posted by pfrcom View Post
              FWIW, other weird behaviour is, if I short Reset pins on Front Panel header, more often than not there's a delay, then it powers off

              At that point just shorting the Pwr pins won't start it - I have to switch power off & on before it will start again

              So I need to remember to use Ctrl-Alt-Del for reset

              Something fundamental seems to have gone wrong with its electronics - reckon I'm
              That is quite strange, indeed.
              My IPIBL-LB is in a HP PC, so it doesn't have a reset switch. But wonder if will do the same thing. If not, then for sure something may not be quite right with yours.

              With that said, perhaps consider giving the motherboard a wash with detergent and warm water, then dry for a few days. Maybe something conductive has gotten under one of the chipsets and is shorting something? I know that using case screws with non-smooth heads will sometimes produce solder and/or metal shavings where the screw head grinds against the motherboard or case. If these shavings got underneath a BGA chip, I think that could cause intermittent trouble. So when in doubt, I wash things and make sure to force plenty of water under whatever BGA chip I think may have gotten affected. Never really had a case where resolved anything, but for the tiny off-chance that it might be possible, I still do it.
              Last edited by momaka; 02-12-2019, 08:13 PM.

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                #27
                Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                Another thing to try if you have a seperate chip programmer, reflash the bios chip, that will clear it out for sure. Or buy another chip with the bios preprogramed.
                I had a Epox motherboard that would stop posting with a C1 error and could not flash on board so took it out and reflashed in programmer now works fine.

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                  #28
                  Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                  Originally posted by Sparkey55 View Post
                  Another thing to try if you have a seperate chip programmer, reflash the bios chip
                  KUDOS to Sparkey55

                  I desoldered its MX25L8005 BIOS chip and reflashed it with my Rube Goldberg setup - https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...55&postcount=9

                  Involving:
                  1. Erase
                  2. Blank check
                  3. Program
                  4. Verify
                  5. Dump
                  6. Compare dump to original

                  So it should have been well & truly cleared out

                  Didn't feel that confident after all the setbacks along the way, but after the acid test of booting an existing Win7, then shutting it down and turning the power off, it didn't produce the dreaded message after starting again

                  Even left it powered off overnight to confirm no message in the morning, before posting this

                  Has certainly reinforced my opinion about Macronix chips being cheap & nasty, compared to Winbond or SST

                  Thanks to everyone who contributed
                  better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                    #29
                    Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                    Yay! Good to hear a success story here!

                    I wonder if that got rid of the random BSODs you experienced too.
                    I raise this question, particularly because I pulled my HP PC with the same motherboard, and first several boots, it was doing some weird things, including throwing a BSOD once or twice. But after a day of use, all trouble went away. I then turned off and disconnected the PC for a few days to see if the issue is perhaps cap related (it does have a Bestec 250-12Z PSU that hasn't been recapped... though all caps appear OK visually... which we know doesn't mean much, but still.) So far, though... it's been OK.

                    Anyways, I'll keep this thread in mind if I see any more odd behavior with my board. In any case, really glad that you were able to fix your and that you updated the thread.

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                      #30
                      Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                      The P.O.S. board failed again

                      Subtly different symptoms this time

                      Before, it showed message on HP BIOS display in graphics mode, even though it was set to Diagnostic messages = Enabled

                      This time it shows a text message shortly after the message about F10 for BIOS setup

                      Undecided whether to replace the crappy Macronix SPI chip this time, or just do irreparable damage to the board so I'm not tempted to waste more time on it
                      better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                        #31
                        Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                        For what it's worth I've had the experience that a once corrupt BIOS chip can be due to hardware problem.
                        I.e. replacing the chip curves the illness of the thing becoming corrupt intermittently again ad-infinitum.
                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                          #32
                          Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                          Oh noes.
                          I guess leave it to ASUS to build an unreliable board - at least from that era. (On that note, I can't think of any DDR2 -era boards that were as reliable as the old DDR boards, if bad capacitor issues are put aside for a moment.)

                          Originally posted by pfrcom View Post
                          Undecided whether to replace the crappy Macronix SPI chip this time, or just do irreparable damage to the board so I'm not tempted to waste more time on it
                          Yeah, I know this feeling. Have quite a bit of hardware in that boat. In the end, I don't destroy any of it though, just in case I need to pull parts to save something else. Have done that quite often with finicky/artifacting video cards. As for my finicky motherboards - good for testing gutless PSUs "as is" - that is, see if they can power up and not blow up (especially when they might have bad caps.)

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                            #33
                            Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                            Heres a IPIBL-LB Boardview .
                            Attached Files
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                              #34
                              Re: IPIBL-LB loses BIOS settings after power off

                              Originally posted by SMDFlea View Post
                              Heres a IPIBL-LB Boardview .
                              Thank you! Sharing schematics/boardviews is always appreciated.
                              I don't need it ATM, but I will save it just in case.
                              Sometimes, I find that certain motherboards from the same manufacturer can often have similarities, which may allow you to troubleshoot one motherboard if you've worked on a similar one. So I imagine this boardview might also be similar to other s775 ASUS boards from the era.

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