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Old 06-19-2022, 08:09 AM   #1
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Default Sanyo DP55441 - No brightness control

Recently picked up a Sanyo DP55441. Set has a few issues:
1. When I turn it on, I always have to select either "Store" or "Home" on the menu (see attachment).
2. It forgets which input I was using last, so I have to change the input setting everytime.
3. The controls for Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Hue and Sharpness are not available from the menu (see attachment).

Besides these issues the set works good, no other issues that I know of.

I am thinking all three are related and its probably the main board. I have looked at the main board and the power board, but see no visible damage.

Any ideas?

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Old 06-19-2022, 08:31 AM   #2
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This is usually due to bad memory (Eeprom, Spi Flash).
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Old 06-19-2022, 09:12 AM   #3
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How do I fix it?
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Old 06-19-2022, 09:32 AM   #4
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How do I fix it?
If you have a programmer, then you need to unsolder this spi flash (from the photo of your motherboard, I no longer saw other Eeprom and spi flash). Read the contents in your memory and save the dump. Buy a new flash and load your saved dump into it and solder it in place of the old flash.
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Old 06-19-2022, 09:46 AM   #5
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Old 06-19-2022, 09:59 AM   #6
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probably bad memory as mentioned, did you try an update and or factory reset?
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Old 06-19-2022, 10:09 AM   #7
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probably bad memory as mentioned, did you try an update and or factory reset?
I did do a reset from the onscreen menu, but I have not tried an update. Is there a certain key sequence to get into a service mode or some other way to get into a deeper reset?

I searched on Sanyo-av.com for my model No. There is no update listed there.

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Old 06-19-2022, 10:30 AM   #8
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If you have a programmer, then you need to unsolder this spi flash (from the photo of your motherboard, I no longer saw other Eeprom and spi flash). Read the contents in your memory and save the dump. Buy a new flash and load your saved dump into it and solder it in place of the old flash.
Here is a picture of my board. There are several of those on the board.

I don't have a programmer. Would one of these work?

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If you see microcircuits on the board 24Cxx, then this is Eeprom, if there are 25Xxx, then this is Spi flash, but the markings are not visible in the photo, rather these are DC / DC converters in the Sop-8 package. As for the programmer - yes it will do.
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Old 06-19-2022, 11:04 AM   #10
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If you see microcircuits on the board 24Cxx, then this is Eeprom, if there are 25Xxx, then this is Spi flash, but the markings are not visible in the photo, rather these are DC / DC converters in the Sop-8 package. As for the programmer - yes it will do.
Let me get the back off again and I will take a closer look.
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Let me get the back off again and I will take a closer look.
You can also look at the back of the board.
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Old 06-19-2022, 11:19 AM   #12
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Usually, the eeprom or spi flash is marked with a dot or a strip of paint (indicating that the microcircuit has been programmed and tested).
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Old 06-19-2022, 11:25 AM   #13
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Usually, the eeprom or spi flash is marked with a dot or a strip of paint (indicating that the microcircuit has been programmed and tested).
The only one I found with "25" on it (see attachment) and it has the paint mark. I did not see any with "24" on them. Do I need to look on back of board for one with "24" on it?
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Default Re: Sanyo DP55441 - No brightness control

Went ahead and flipped the board over. Found this one with a paint mark on it too, Number on it reads 25L8xxxx if it matters. I think the xxxx is 036F, but its covered by the paint.
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Maybe, maybe not. But rather it is not there.
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On the other hand, we do not need 25xxx, it is rather responsible for scarlet (matrix settings).
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Old 06-19-2022, 11:59 AM   #17
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On the other hand, we do not need 25xxx, it is rather responsible for scarlet (matrix settings).
Both of them are 25xxx. Is the one on the front the one that possibly needs to be replaced? Are there certain specifications that I need to look for to replace it with? Surely there are other sources for this that are not $16.

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Wipe off the paint so that the full marking can be seen.
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Old 06-19-2022, 12:40 PM   #19
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Wipe off the paint so that the full marking can be seen.
Here is close-ups of both chips. The numbers are:

Front Chip
MXIC MX
25L3206E
M2I-12G
3F652000
L111676

Back Chip:
MXIC MX
25L8006E
M2I-12G
3E660500
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For 16 bucks there is an already programmed flash, you need to find the same or an analogue (the size of the internal memory), they cost a penny.

https://aliexpress.ru/popular/mx25l3206em2i-12g.html
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