Badcaps.net Forum
Go Back   Badcaps Forums > General Topics > General Computer & Tech Discussion
Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-06-2010, 10:45 PM   #1
pentium
Badcaps Veteran
 
pentium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
City & State: Kamloops BC
My Country: Canada
I'm a: Knowledge Seeker
Posts: 2,688
Exclamation Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

W O W
This is awesome in several levels.



Quote:
In an almost surreal tale of events, USA electronics retailer Newegg has discovered a reported 300 counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPU’s in its inventory, some of which were inadvertently shipped out to buyers!


Initial reports of the fakes began yesterday when at least 5 separate incidents totaling 9 fake processors cropped up on Youtube, HardOCP and the Overclockers.com forums. The recipients of the fakes had all purchased the CPU’s from Newegg.com within the past few days.


We contacted Newegg and a representative confirmed that they did in fact receive “incorrect inventory” in the form of fake processors from a vendor and that they were working to rectify the matter as quickly as possible. Unfortunately further questions about how they intended to resolve the matter with the unfortunate purchasers or details about where the counterfeits came from and how they managed to slip by screenings were ignored.


The pictures below, taken by the unwitting buyers tell the story. The heatsink had been swapped with a rather crude epoxy or clay like molding of the stock Intel HSF, with a picture of the fan’s top part attached. The CPU was layers of of metal and PCB with a fake IHS on the top and a sticker attached with typical Core i7 information. The box itself was riddled with spelling errors, and to bypass the security seal, the box was printed with a “Intel Factory Sealed” sticker look alike and a clear sticker attached over top.


Intel does provide “security” windows on its packaging in order to verify that the CPU and fan are in fan in the box, however, it does not show the full components.


It is expected that Newegg will replace the processors very quickly and an investigation into the perpetrators of such a unique crime will likely begin. No others reports of fake CPUs from North American retailers has been heard and a source with retailer NCIX.com confirms that the company has already checked their stock and found no fakes.


If the rumoured HardOCP number of 300 counterfeit units is accurate, it that would represent a street value price of over $85,000 USD.

Quote:
Update: Newegg has released an official statement regarding the incident, attempting explain the ordeal as a shipment of “demo boxes” by a supplier.


Newegg is aware of a shipping error that occurred with certain recent orders of the Intel Core i7-920 CPU. After investigating the issue internally it appears one of our long term partners mistakenly shipped a small number of demo boxes instead of functional units. Our customer service team has already begun proactively reaching out to the affected… See More customers. In line with our commitment to ensure total customer satisfaction, we are doing everything in our power to resolve the issue as soon as possible and with the least amount of inconvenience to our customers.
***SOURCE***

More images available at the link above.
__________________
Find Nedry!


Check the Vending machines!!

<----Computer says I need more beer.
pentium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 02:17 AM   #2
willawake
Super Modulator
 
willawake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
City & State: Αθήνα
Posts: 8,006
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

demo boxes lol. why dont they just admit they are fakes.
__________________
capacitor lab yachtmati techmati
willawake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 07:44 AM   #3
370forlife
Large Marge
 
370forlife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
City & State: Kalamazoo, MI
My Country: United States
Line Voltage: 0-120VAC 60Hz
I'm a: Hobbyist Tech
Posts: 2,924
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

I don't see why demo boxes would have spelling errors and a fake factory seal.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by JFK
The American, by nature, is optimistic. He is experimental, an inventor and a builder who builds best when called upon to build greatly
370forlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 08:15 AM   #4
stj
Great Sage 齊天大聖
 
stj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
City & State: Europe
My Country: some shithole run by Israeli agents
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 22,162
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

lol

probably from Intel,
what do you expect from a company with it's factory in Israel!
stj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 09:47 AM   #5
acstech
GrumpyModerator
 
acstech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
City & State: Iowa
My Country: USA
Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 1,432
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
Originally Posted by stj
lol

probably from Intel,
what do you expect from a company with it's factory in Israel!
This is why I'm only buying AMD from now on. Despite my current system.

Anyway, I don't buy Newegg's story either. It makes me wonder how much of their other stuff is of questionable origin.
__________________
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
acstech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 10:15 AM   #6
Topcat
The Boss Stooge
 
Topcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
City & State: Salem, MO
My Country: United States
Line Voltage: 240V @ 60Hz
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 12,971
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
Originally Posted by stj
lol

probably from Intel,
what do you expect from a company with it's factory in Israel!
I'd rather see 'made in Israel' than made in china.... My Xeons came from the nice warm South American country of Costa Rica.....
__________________
<--- Badcaps.net Founder & Owner

Badcaps.net Services:

Premade Capacitor Kits
Badcaps.net Capacitor Master List


Motherboard Repair Services


If you've come here in search of replacement capacitors or repair services, please use the links above.
----------------------------------------------
Badcaps.net Forum Members Folding Team
http://folding.stanford.edu/
Team : 49813
Join in!!
Team Stats
Topcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 10:33 AM   #7
mockingbird
Badcaps Veteran
 
mockingbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,924
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Core i7 is a combination of Jewish and American brains. The core design is based Dohtan, and the hyperthreading comes from the Pentium 4 which I believe was designed in Texas.

Actually this platform is so versatile, if it weren't for Intel changing the Dothan to AGTL+ bus, we would have all been able to run Dothan chips on our BX chipsets, they are otherwise compatible.

AMDs chips are nice, but until they license the latter SSE4 iterations (SSE4a is not SSE4), I will try to stay far away from them.

In a few years, when the new compilers are all optimized for SSE4.X, Intel chips will blow AMD out of the water in encoding/gaming/multimedia.
mockingbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 10:45 AM   #8
willawake
Super Modulator
 
willawake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
City & State: Αθήνα
Posts: 8,006
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

i dunno it was dissapointing already
willawake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 10:49 AM   #9
ratdude747
Black Sheep
 
ratdude747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
City & State: Madison, IN
My Country: USA
Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 16,128
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

fake demo boxes?
__________________


(Insert witty quote here)
ratdude747 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 10:51 AM   #10
kc8adu
Super Moderator
 
kc8adu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
City & State: dayton ohio
My Country: U.S.A!
Line Voltage: 12vdc,120/240vac,480vac 3ph on my bench
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 8,296
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

the engrish on that box means these are pure counterfiets likely from china.
probably substituted along the way through distribution.
could have happened anywhere in the path.
you can bet heads are gonna roll on this one!
kc8adu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 11:41 AM   #11
stj
Great Sage 齊天大聖
 
stj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
City & State: Europe
My Country: some shithole run by Israeli agents
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 22,162
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

i can tell you WHY intel are in israel - actually Palastine.
and amd are in mexico.

amd want cheap mfr costs.
intel want 0 taxes.

the terror-state has special agreements with the EU & U.S. and pay NO import-duty!!!
also, the terrorist government give grants - presumably u.s. taxpayer sourced,
for company's wanting to startup in ocupied/"disputed" area's beyond the so-called 67' borders.

--------------

as for newegg,
was it them that have a history of people buying terrabyte harddrives only to find an old 20gig seagate in the box, and a woman who got a digital-cam with a brick in the box?
stj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 11:54 AM   #12
mockingbird
Badcaps Veteran
 
mockingbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,924
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
i can tell you WHY intel are in israel - actually Palastine
The arabs cannot even drill one barrel of their own oil without white European and Western technology much less grasp the concepts behind integrated circuit engineering.
mockingbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 02:17 PM   #13
NxB
Badcaps Veteran
 
NxB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,587
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
In a few years, when the new compilers are all optimized for SSE4.X, Intel chips will blow AMD out of the water in encoding/gaming/multimedia.
So in a few years there won't be any new AMD chips? Phenom II is the last proc they will make, right?

Buy a new Intel chip and you get top of the line performance. Buy a new AMD and you'll be able to afford the next new AMD that comes out. Top PhenomII is like $200, top I7 is $800+, I don't think the difference is worth $400. This isn't 1996, I'd rather NOT spend $3k on a computer.
NxB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 02:25 PM   #14
willawake
Super Modulator
 
willawake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
City & State: Αθήνα
Posts: 8,006
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
Originally Posted by stj
i can tell you WHY intel are in israel - actually Palastine.
yes
willawake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 02:43 PM   #15
stj
Great Sage 齊天大聖
 
stj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
City & State: Europe
My Country: some shithole run by Israeli agents
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 22,162
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
Originally Posted by willawake
yes
i did.


incidentally, GCC already has optimisations for most cpu's - it will probably get the i7 stuff if it hasnt already.
stj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2010, 10:19 PM   #16
mockingbird
Badcaps Veteran
 
mockingbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,924
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
So in a few years there won't be any new AMD chips? Phenom II is the last proc they will make, right?

Buy a new Intel chip and you get top of the line performance. Buy a new AMD and you'll be able to afford the next new AMD that comes out. Top PhenomII is like $200, top I7 is $800+, I don't think the difference is worth $400. This isn't 1996, I'd rather NOT spend $3k on a computer.
No, AMD will continue to make stuff, but Intel will never license later versions of SSE for them and SSE will become pretty predominant and pretty soon, AMD will not be able to compete.

Also, quad core Core2 chips are only around $60 more expensive than their AMD counterparts. Is it worth it if you ask me? Yes.

Also, remember that Intel is a profitable company, AMD is not, which means that AMDs future is unpredictable. But their glory days of Athlon (Which was plagued by lousy chipsets, BTW) is over. The stage has been set and they will never be able to compete with Intel as they were able to back then.
mockingbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 07:25 AM   #17
stj
Great Sage 齊天大聖
 
stj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
City & State: Europe
My Country: some shithole run by Israeli agents
I'm a: Professional Tech
Posts: 22,162
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

amd could destroy intel in the future,
they now own ati, and are working on unified cpu/gpu designs.

imagine they start using the gpu as a co-processor with an on-chip transport-bus!
stj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 08:04 AM   #18
willawake
Super Modulator
 
willawake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
City & State: Αθήνα
Posts: 8,006
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

probably just the same happen. one is on top then later the other one and so forth. nobody is going to release anything so groundbreaking that everyone is speechless. technology got boring a long time ago.
willawake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 09:17 AM   #19
mockingbird
Badcaps Veteran
 
mockingbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,924
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

Quote:
Originally Posted by stj
amd could destroy intel in the future,
they now own ati, and are working on unified cpu/gpu designs.

imagine they start using the gpu as a co-processor with an on-chip transport-bus!
I don't buy it.

CPU does not equal GPU.

Think about it. Intel's job is to improve the design of its own bloated CISC. Intel invented it, which means that they are the best at maintaining and improving it.

Graphics cards use high efficiency RISC processors. They require severe brute force and depend on ultra fast memory to function well.

Besides, video card manufacturers are stuck programming for Direct3D which will always affect their MO in someway or another because no one seems to care about OpenGL performance anymore, and D3D is like running Windows vs. the speed of Linux - that is to say - it sucks.

To prove my point, someone explain to me why a 512-bit Radeon 2900XT (The only 512 bit videocard in existence) is trounced by almost every other generation ahead of it.
mockingbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 10:14 AM   #20
NxB
Badcaps Veteran
 
NxB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,587
Default Re: Newegg Ships Counterfeit Intel Core i7 920 CPUs

What is to stop AMD from making its own instruction set which is better than SSE4? If there are real gains, people will support it. Who is to say Intel won't license it.

Not only is the core processor more expensive, but so are the motherboards.
NxB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Badcaps.net Technical Forums © 2003 - 2020
Powered by vBulletin ®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:22 PM.
Did you find this forum helpful?