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    Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

    http://www.myce.com/news/again-micro...dows-10-78345/
    http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-s...as-well-78365/

    How aggressive can Microsoft get in pushing Windows 10?
    I believe that this is a way to reduce their support costs.

    http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-w...omorrow-78343/

    Even though Windows 8 might be considered to still have mainstream support at the time of posting, this could turn out to be a bad decision since Windows 8 was released in 2012.
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    Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

    it will reduce support costs by reducing users!

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      #3
      Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

      if they try cutting w7 support before 2020, all hell would break loose...sadly though, these days I'm very close to the point of not trusting MS anymore....seems a lot of 'patches' these days intentionally break things...
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        #4
        Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

        Who wants DVD's of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when it launches?
        Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

        My computer doubles as a space heater.

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        - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
        - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
        - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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          #5
          Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

          Originally posted by Topcat View Post
          sadly though, these days I'm very close to the point of not trusting MS anymore....
          Would you end up converting the server over to Linux?
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            #6
            Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

            Originally posted by TechGeek View Post
            Who wants DVD's of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when it launches?
            ewww...
            "pokemon go... to hell!"

            EOL it...
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            guilty of being cheap-made!

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              #7
              Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

              Originally posted by kaboom View Post
              Originally posted by TechGeek View Post
              Who wants DVD's of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS when it launches?
              ewww...
              Agreed. I got Debian on the server and arch on my laptops (used to run it on workstations but gnome wasn't as advantageous on twin screens). I'm set.
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                #8
                Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                Now Microsoft has pushed the free Windows 10 upgrade too far:
                http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-c...consent-78844/
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                  Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                  FAIL. Windows 10 is just an epic FLOP.
                  Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                  My computer doubles as a space heater.

                  Permanently Retired Systems:
                  RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                  Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                  Kooky and Kool Systems
                  - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                  - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                  - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                  - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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                    #10
                    Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                    Originally posted by RJARRRPCGP View Post
                    Would you end up converting the server over to Linux?
                    The BCN server has been linux since 2009.
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                      #11
                      Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                      After Windows 7 support ends, any computers with Windows 7 ONLY will have their hard drives formatted and a copy of Linux installed.
                      Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                      My computer doubles as a space heater.

                      Permanently Retired Systems:
                      RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                      Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                      Kooky and Kool Systems
                      - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                      - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                      - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                      - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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                        #12
                        Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                        Originally posted by kaboom View Post
                        ewww...
                        Who wants opensuse 42.1 DVDs?

                        Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                        if they try cutting w7 support before 2020, all hell would break loose...sadly though, these days I'm very close to the point of not trusting MS anymore....seems a lot of 'patches' these days intentionally break things...
                        It's already EOL mainstream right? Why wouldn't they kill it? They just killed H8, they push adverts to it and collect data from it, yet they killed it. H8 was a cash cow. They can't push adverts to Se7en but they can collect data, so why not take it out? It's more expensive maintain afterall. I have a gut (wrenching) feeling that 7 is going to be killed off by Q4. Maybe Q2 2017 at the latest.
                        Last edited by goontron; 03-14-2016, 07:26 PM.
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                          #13
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                          dup post
                          (stupid 4g, grumble grumble)
                          Last edited by goontron; 03-14-2016, 07:17 PM.
                          Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                          "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                          Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                          You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                          Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                          Follow the white rabbit.

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                            #14
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                            post to let you delete your dup. post
                            Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                            My computer doubles as a space heater.

                            Permanently Retired Systems:
                            RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                            Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                            Kooky and Kool Systems
                            - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                            - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                            - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                            - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

                            sigpic

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                              #15
                              Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                              Originally posted by goontron View Post
                              I have a gut (wrenching) feeling that 7 is going to be killed off by Q4. Maybe Q1 2017.
                              because of contractual obligations to OEM's, corporations and even consumer markets, they can not EoL it early. However, they can refuse to extend support for it like they did several times for Win2k and XP.
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                                #16
                                Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                                Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                                because of contractual obligations to OEM's, corporations and even consumer markets, they can not EoL it early. However, they can refuse to extend support for it like they did several times for Win2k and XP.
                                Ive not read the EULA but usually there is some "I've got a different way that's not compatible with the current way, so fuck off" clause somewhere in the agreement. Knowing most large commerce managers, they sign it without reading. OEMs may be a different story though... I could be talking out my ars, but im not sure what to think M$ would do...
                                Last edited by goontron; 03-14-2016, 07:52 PM.
                                Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                                "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                                Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                                You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                                Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                                Follow the white rabbit.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Microsoft becoming more aggressive in pushing Windows 10+end of Windows 8 patches

                                  Originally posted by goontron View Post
                                  Ive not read the EULA but usually there is some "I've got a different way that's not compatible with the current way, so fuck off" clause somewhere in the agreement. Knowing most large commerce managers, they sign it without reading. OEMs may be a different story though... I could be talking out my ars, but im not sure what to think M$ would do...
                                  Well, they can't formally EoL an OS early...however, nothing really stops them from breaking things with "critical updates" and creating compatibility issues with optional updates. They can shove their newest OS up everyone's all they want, but they cant end the life on one early. Third party software makers are also th fuel to the fire, they continue to write software for MS OS's whether its still supported by MS or not..... MS is more inclined to strong-arm hardware manufacturers by ending driver support for existing hardware and bullying them into not creating drivers for previous OS's with new hardware.
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                                    #18
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                                    What a mess. I still use XP (for old games and some apps I just can't do without), but everything else is Debian Stable.

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                                      #19
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                                      Re japlytic's third link in the OP:
                                      Originally posted by Clueless people at Microsoft
                                      “Windows 8.1 does not change any hardware requirements compared with Windows 8 or Windows 7"
                                      Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-windows81-faq
                                      Sure: tell that to my Dell Precision 470 with 16GB RAM that can't upgrade from Windows 8 to 8.1 due to lack of the PrefetchW instruction!
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                                        #20
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                                        Now Microsoft is in denial about automatic upgrades to Windows 10 without permission:
                                        http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-n...mission-78876/
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