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    #21
    Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

    Hello

    this are the part numbers of those parts

    Q601 = K3530
    Q801 = Cannot read
    Q701A = K4A60DA
    Q701B = K4A60DA
    IC601 = 2QS02G
    IC801 = 1608B
    IC701 = DDA009
    IC901 = DDA010
    IC902 = S101202D
    Attached Files
    Last edited by trunks81; 07-18-2020, 12:51 PM.

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      #22
      Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

      Originally posted by thommyX View Post
      IC901 is a DDA010 and IC902 is an ST9S101 / IN1M101.
      If the brown out is faulty, you have fluctuating tensions.


      LG Thomas
      Changed both IC and problem is still the same

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        #23
        Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

        What voltage do you have across C908 and also at the FB pin 2 of IC901 and are they steady
        Last edited by dick_barton; 08-12-2020, 09:38 AM.
        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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          #24
          Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

          On pin 2 of IC902 iam getting 0V to 0.23V
          On C908 iam getting 13v to 19v
          Also i found that ZD904 is low in diodemode 0.0029 in both directions
          When soldered out iam getting 0.69 and reverse 2,7

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            #25
            Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

            It looks like your pfc circuit is switching on when the voltage across C908 reaches 18V and then stopping when the voltage falls which would be the reason your secondary voltages are oscillating.

            It does look like a short but is it the zener or R902 since that is across ZD904. You could lift one end of ZD904 to test it or it could be a short on the IC pin to ground.

            CS is the current source pin which would have a low value resistor (R902) attached to it and hot ground.
            Last edited by dick_barton; 08-12-2020, 12:35 PM.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              #26
              Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

              When ZD904 soldered out iam getting 3ohm in R902 also when soldered out it is 3ohm marking on the resistor is 47Y
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              Last edited by trunks81; 08-12-2020, 12:59 PM.

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                #27
                Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                47Y is 47 ohms according to http://kiloohm.info/eia96-resistor/47Y

                Are you certain it's 47Y since that seems to be a high value resistor as a source resistor.
                Last edited by dick_barton; 08-12-2020, 01:01 PM.
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  #28
                  Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                  iam confused.. according to the same site it is an 3.01 ohm
                  Please see picture in previous post for resistor

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                    #29
                    Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                    I stand corrected it is 3.01 ohms.
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      #30
                      Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                      I forgot about this thread, too busy with the 37" & 47" threads.
                      So at this point if you run the power supply board by itself and force it on, is the PFC boost Voltage staying on?
                      Last edited by budm; 08-12-2020, 03:52 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        #31
                        Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                        I connected pin 1 and 2 on 1M95 (CN4) with an 1K Resistor
                        And on

                        C800 = 313VDC
                        C908 = 17.21VDC

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                          #32
                          Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                          Originally posted by trunks81 View Post
                          I connected pin 1 and 2 on 1M95 (CN4) with an 1K Resistor
                          And on

                          C800 = 313VDC
                          C908 = 17.21VDC
                          The PS-ON (STANDBY) for this Philips power supply is Active Low, so you need to Ground pin 2 (STANDBY) of CN4 to Ground pin 3, 4, 8, or 14 using 100 Ohms resistor or so to turn on the power supply.
                          Attached Files
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            #33
                            Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                            does it really need to be an 100ohm ? because i dont have it right now

                            When stubborn using an 1K iam getting

                            C800=407
                            C908=17.30
                            Last edited by trunks81; 08-13-2020, 04:45 AM.

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                              #34
                              Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                              What are the values of R959 & R960.

                              For standby: - do you have a couple of resistors you could put in parallel. e.g. 2 x 1K in parallel = 500 ohms
                              Last edited by dick_barton; 08-13-2020, 04:45 AM.
                              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                #35
                                Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                                Both resistor measure oke, measured them in circuit

                                R959 = 01D = 100kohm
                                R960 = 69B = 5.11kohm
                                Attached Files

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                                  #36
                                  Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                                  Looking at those values I think it's safe enough to short standby to ground.
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                    #37
                                    Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                                    I suggest using resistor just in case OP ground the wrong pin on the connector by mistake if he jumps directly, OP can jump STANDBY pin to ground directly with no problem, I am just afraid that OP will make mistake and ground the wrong pin.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      #38
                                      Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                                      ive used an 1K instead of 100ohm.. and that seems to work also

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                                        #39
                                        Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                                        So is the PFC Boosted Voltage present then?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                          #40
                                          Re: 42PFL7406 No Power

                                          Originally posted by trunks81 View Post
                                          does it really need to be an 100ohm ? because i dont have it right now

                                          When stubborn using an 1K iam getting

                                          C800=407VDC
                                          C908=17.30VDC
                                          This is what iam getting with 1K present

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