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Old 10-10-2018, 11:54 AM   #21
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Started putting it together....This motherboard fit the case like a glove. Every standoff lined up. Motherboard headers didn't even need any modifications. This one is going too easy!



FWIW, the mfg date on the tag is 7/20/98....I was 24 when this was made.


Next sunny day (hopefully tomorrow) I'll mix up some 'soup'.


Still using the test HDD's. Front panel LED's work, and booted normal.


Yup, so far so good. Momaka, that is FF24.8.1, the last release of ff24. Functions well.


More later......
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:19 PM   #22
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That's a nice system.

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I know it's a CD-ROM drive, but I would still actually have tried to fix that Samsung drive of yours.
It was completely dead, and the main processor got extremely hot.

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The one in my Gateway 1000 had a normal-size AT PSU. Made by PowerTronic, IIRC. Looked well-built on the inside.

**EDIT** I found two pictures of that Gateway PC. My memory was wrong, it's actually model number P5-100.
This was a GP5-200. It didn't have that PSU adapter. It also had the cover plate over the rear fan opening.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:44 PM   #23
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The soup....


Not perfect, but came out good. They never come out 100%, but short of actually repainting the plastics, I'm happy.

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Yes, I know the drives are crooked....they're just sitting in there loose.


Getting close.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:11 PM   #24
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Man I don't know why but I love this kind of builds, I think is just because the parts were built to last, new PC components are just not as exciting yeah you can run everything you might think but that takes a bit of the fun with it.
For the os XP was just perfect , I still use XP on the computer I use for college (not connected to internet tho) hey another other thing I don't like windows 10 believe it or not but the os that I like the most is windows 8 just because of that tablet like interface... (Off topic ik)
Congrats on your new build and I'm waiting for the final results!
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:02 PM   #25
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If you could just grind off that Gateway emblem and glue on a SuperMicro emblem it would be perfect.
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:10 PM   #26
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Not perfect, but came out good. They never come out 100%, but short of actually repainting the plastics, I'm happy.

Flash on (the flash always accentuates flaws, making it look worse):
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1539376837
Don't worry that much. I agree that flash always makes things look worse than they are (and hence why I always try to take shots without). But in this case (pun intended ), the results came out excellent, IMO.

The only thing that catches my eye is the corroded spots on the bottom of the metal of the case. Any plans for that and any way to stop the from popping back. I have tried spray painting before with store spray paint, but often bad rust spots (especially those from roach and/or bedbug poop) tend to come back right through the paint. Got any tips for that? I tried latex paint on another case recently. Seems to be holding up better and the paint is also a bit harder to nick away than regular spray paint. I did apply it with a brush, though, so it looks... well... not amazing. Not terrible either, though.

By the way, the oldschool case for the SM build I'm planning to use has only a few rust spots on the bottom (and by that, I mean on the side facing the floor). Yet, it drives me nuts and I really have to sand it off and do something about it. I might try the same latex paint treatment.

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Yes, I know the drives are crooked....they're just sitting in there loose.
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Meh. Didn't notice until you mentioned it.
I regularly just screw optical drives just on one side when I'm short on screws or the case feels tight enough that I don't thin screws on the other side are necessary (on loose cases, they are, as otherwise you get terrible vibrations.)

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Yup, so far so good. Momaka, that is FF24.8.1, the last release of ff24. Functions well.
Yessir.
I use it on a daily basis here. Same goes for Opera 12 - the last version with the *real* Opera engine and not Chrome-plated poop.

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If you could just grind off that Gateway emblem and glue on a SuperMicro emblem it would be perfect.
Nah, I think that's part of the charm here.
However, he could put a small tiny sticker somewhere, saying "powered by SuperMicro" or something like that.

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Old 10-12-2018, 09:25 PM   #27
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I was looking through my storage units today and found some really old tower cases I bet Topcat could steath mod. One is a NEC Tower and One is a Speery Univac "Militay only" USNavy ships I somehow saved from the back in the late 1980s when I was in service.
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The only thing that catches my eye is the corroded spots on the bottom of the metal of the case. Any plans for that and any way to stop the from popping back. I have tried spray painting before with store spray paint, but often bad rust spots (especially those from roach and/or bedbug poop) tend to come back right through the paint. Got any tips for that? I tried latex paint on another case recently. Seems to be holding up better and the paint is also a bit harder to nick away than regular spray paint. I did apply it with a brush, though, so it looks... well... not amazing. Not terrible either, though.
I usually just clean it up with a scotchbrite pad and leave it at that. If not stored in a humid place, it won't get any worse. If you want to paint/restore it, you have to grind it out (like you would doing body work on a car), down to the bare metal. You'd then have to treat it with rust inhibitor and fill the pits.....then prime & paint. I've done it before, and it looked better than a restored '57 Chevy.....but for a PC case, it's hard to justify...

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Meh. Didn't notice until you mentioned it.
I regularly just screw optical drives just on one side when I'm short on screws or the case feels tight enough that I don't thin screws on the other side are necessary (on loose cases, they are, as otherwise you get terrible vibrations.)
I always save screws when scrapping out total junk...I've got little storage drawers full of them....you can never have too many.


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Yessir.
I use it on a daily basis here. Same goes for Opera 12 - the last version with the *real* Opera engine and not Chrome-plated poop.
Opera....I can't even remember the last time I used that.... Never used chrome, and never will.

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Nah, I think that's part of the charm here.
However, he could put a small tiny sticker somewhere, saying "powered by SuperMicro" or something like that.
The emblem just pops out, but it would leave a blank in the shape of the 'gateway 2000' logo.


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I was looking through my storage units today and found some really old tower cases I bet Topcat could steath mod. One is a NEC Tower and One is a Speery Univac "Militay only" USNavy ships I somehow saved from the back in the late 1980s when I was in service.
I could only imagne what those weigh, shipping would be out of the question.... One of these days I need to take a road trip out your way and pilfer your stash.
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The Speery Univac tower weights a ton, it even has 2 8.5" drive bays for the old school floppy drives.
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This one is complete. I filled the 2x fan ports with some fans I scavenged from a junk powmax PSU...if anyone remembers 'powmax', the fans were the only thing in one of these pieces of crap that were good.

I reassembled the case....and here we are!









This has been a fun one!!
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Man, those Plextor optical drives look awesome!
And I see both of them have their lights on. Are you reading something from one and burning it on the other?

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This one is complete. I filled the 2x fan ports with some fans I scavenged from a junk powmax PSU...if anyone remembers 'powmax', the fans were the only thing in one of these pieces of crap that were good.
Of course! PowMax is the reason I found and joined badcaps.net... and also how I got interested in power supplies.

Now this might seem a little embarrassing for you, but while we are on the topic, I remember finding this quote from a while back
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About a year ago I had a Powmax 500 watt power supply incinerate itself... Smoke poured out of the case, and the PC obviously stopped workin...

I took the cover off and the switch-mode transistor had burnt beyond recognition, along with everything around it... With that kind of damage I didn't even think to look at the caps... HEH...

I've since thrown it away, but I'll keep my eyes open... I frequently recommend and use Powmax supplies!!
And the thread can be found here, just so you don't say I made that one up.

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I usually just clean it up with a scotchbrite pad and leave it at that. If not stored in a humid place, it won't get any worse. If you want to paint/restore it, you have to grind it out (like you would doing body work on a car), down to the bare metal. You'd then have to treat it with rust inhibitor and fill the pits.....then prime & paint. I've done it before, and it looked better than a restored '57 Chevy.....but for a PC case, it's hard to justify...
Yeah, that's the thing - it is fairly humid where I am... and we don't even have a basement! (On that note, when I've picked up PC gear from really humid houses with basements, sometimes even the dust is so humid that it corrodes any metal parts that it touches.) So I do have to do something about rust spots, otherwise they keep growing bigger as the rust picks up more moisture and grows.

I've never done any car painting work, so I wouldn't know how to give the case a proper paint job. But as I mentioned, I did experiment on one PSU and one PC case with some latex paint after deeply cleaning the rust spots with sandpaper (I think I got pretty close to bare metal). Hopefully the latex paint will create a rubber-like moisture-proof seal to stop the rust from growing again. It seems that regular spray paint does not do that. Perhaps on the next case, I might try oil-based paint / wood stain. But I don't know. What're your thoughts on this?

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I always save screws when scrapping out total junk...I've got little storage drawers full of them....you can never have too many.
I did that at some of my previous jobs, so I do have some spare screws too. But like you said, you can never have too many. Just when I think I have enough, some project comes up and gobbles them all up.

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Opera....I can't even remember the last time I used that....
Well, now that FF24 and Opera 12 are pretty outdated, I find it equally likely/unlikely that a certain website will or won't work on them.
For general use (like looking for datasheets on Google or wherever else), I prefer Opera, as it's lightning-fast compared to any FF browser. But it seems that FF24 still has more websites compatible with it than Opera 12. So on a day-to-day basis, I usually have both open.

Opera 12 is wonderful for badcaps.net, BTW - especially on PCs with low RAM. I can browse BCN forums all day with over 20 tabs open and never run out of RAM - even on PCs with as low as 384 MB of RAM. Meanwhile, FF24 needs at least 1 GB with XP. And it feels a bit more sluggish too. Opera 12 + instant page redraw in options = lightning-fast loading times.

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Man, those Plextor optical drives look awesome!
And I see both of them have their lights on. Are you reading something from one and burning it on the other?
No, they're empty....but Plextor being the awesome creatures that they are, they have an 'on/busy' LED (the one that's lit), and another that lights if there's a disc in the drive. The burner has 4 blinky lights....I don't remember off the top of my head exactly what each one is for.

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Of course! PowMax is the reason I found and joined badcaps.net... and also how I got interested in power supplies.

Now this might seem a little embarrassing for you, but while we are on the topic, I remember finding this quote from a while back
You do realize that's 15yrs old? I've learned a few tricks over the last 15 years since that post...mainly, having one go up in smoke and understanding the reasons why. Prior to that, it was solid....live & learn!

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It seems that regular spray paint does not do that. Perhaps on the next case, I might try oil-based paint / wood stain. But I don't know. What're your thoughts on this?
It probably won't stick. Try some Rustoleum spray with rust inhibitor, that stuff works really well.

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I did that at some of my previous jobs, so I do have some spare screws too. But like you said, you can never have too many. Just when I think I have enough, some project comes up and gobbles them all up.
If you remember that big black double motherboard server tower, that one came with a gigantic bag of screws & hardware...I never understood why it came with all that, I didn't even use half of them....but I guess that's a rarity, the cheapass case makers these days usually don't give you enough.


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Well, now that FF24 and Opera 12 are pretty outdated, I find it equally likely/unlikely that a certain website will or won't work on them.
For general use (like looking for datasheets on Google or wherever else), I prefer Opera, as it's lightning-fast compared to any FF browser. But it seems that FF24 still has more websites compatible with it than Opera 12. So on a day-to-day basis, I usually have both open.

Opera 12 is wonderful for badcaps.net, BTW - especially on PCs with low RAM. I can browse BCN forums all day with over 20 tabs open and never run out of RAM - even on PCs with as low as 384 MB of RAM. Meanwhile, FF24 needs at least 1 GB with XP. And it feels a bit more sluggish too. Opera 12 + instant page redraw in options = lightning-fast loading times.
I haven't tried it in ages....I might have to dig it up and tinker...
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You do realize that's 15yrs old? I've learned a few tricks over the last 15 years since that post...mainly, having one go up in smoke and understanding the reasons why. Prior to that, it was solid....live & learn!
Absolutely. (which is also why I included a link to the original post).
I just felt like teasing a bit.
Hope you didn't mind.

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It probably won't stick.
Yeah, I have that feeling too. I'm just trying to thin down on the garage stock of old paint stuffs. Will check out the Rustoleum when I go to Home Depot next time.

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If you remember that big black double motherboard server tower, that one came with a gigantic bag of screws & hardware...I never understood why it came with all that, I didn't even use half of them....but I guess that's a rarity, the cheapass case makers these days usually don't give you enough.
I do remember it. But like you said, that's a special one. Regular store-grade PC cases don't even compare to it.

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Absolutely. (which is also why I included a link to the original post).
I just felt like teasing a bit.
Hope you didn't mind.
Nah....I can totally chuckle at myself when I know I said something dumb....especially looking 15yrs back at it.
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