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    Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

    Worst pics I've seen here yet.
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    #2
    Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

    This computer belongs to friends who are paying me to fix it. It shuts off after 10 - 30 seconds. Obviously bad caps. In fact, they are worse than any other pictures I've seen on badcaps.com.

    Question: can I replace just the board and re-activate WinXP? What boards will be compatible? I know it's probably too hard a question and so they will end up having to buy a new PC .

    This PC had a lot of dust: but a bit less than "dont let your pc get like this!"

    The machine is out of warranty, so HP has offered nothing for my trouble. (I already bought a power supply before I noticed the caps.) What's this about a class action?

    The rest of this post is about HP part number confusion.

    As for HP part numbers, as mentioned in this thread, the same HP model can have different motherboards. In fact if you go to buy the part on the HP website, you get a screen like this:
    DA203-69002 $154.00
    Motherboard (system board) - Echo, GLA - For systems with K, L, T, or R as the 3rd digit in the serial number (Tatung)
    REQUIRES RETURN OF DEFECTIVE PART

    5187-2121 $172.00 New part for DA203-69002
    But then if you click "CLICK HERE to select your model" (even though you already have given it the model number), then you get these additional parts, which are the right ones, according to the HP tech I chatted with:
    DF215-69002 $139.00
    Motherboard (system board) - Echo-GL
    REQUIRES RETURN OF DEFECTIVE PART

    5187-4631 $155.00 New part for DF215-69002
    As you can see in the picture above, the board says this:
    Mat NO. 132872 IMPERIAL_GL_VE 20020629
    Those last digits seem to be a date that is not important to match when you are doing a replacement, perhaps.

    Futhermore... the HP web site offers this "Product Information" for the Pavilion 533w (also known as 500, also known as P9859A):
    Motherboard Specifications, P4G533 (Echo)
    Motherboard Specifications, TriGem 2002052 (Glendale)
    The second one is the one I'm working on.

    Hope this post comes in handy for anyone else with a HP.
    Last edited by kitchin; 10-22-2005, 08:46 AM.

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      #3
      Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

      whoa.... worst caps I've ever seen also. Those HPs are crap, the same board was used in crap eMachines. What brand are the caps?
      The great capacitor showdown!

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        #4
        Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

        Brand: the board's still in the machine, but I'll drop a mirror in and look at them later.

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          #5
          Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

          look like TMS
          capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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            #6
            Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

            We used to buy HP Pavilion machines, but when I heard that HP was going to have at least some of their PCs developed by the Compaq folks - infamous quality and support - we bought Sony Vaio instead. That was '01 or '02, and that pic which seems to show a June, 2002 date code seems to confirm the wisdom of not buying HP.
            PeteS in CA

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              #7
              Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

              I work with an ex HP employee, HP doesn't even use HP computers...kind of tells you something...

              A lot of the newer eMachines use SOTST from various manufacturers...
              Ya'll think us folk from the country's real funny-like, dontcha?

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                #8
                Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                I will get the brand off those caps in the HP Pavilion later today or tomorrow. Wonder if I should look inside the power supply too?

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                  #9
                  Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                  I would look in the PSU also.
                  The great capacitor showdown!

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                    #10
                    Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                    I'd be curious to know the brand of P/S, too. HP used to use Delta Products and Yokogawa.
                    PeteS in CA

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                      #11
                      Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                      Ack, no time to photograph close-ups.

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                        #12
                        Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                        I work with an ex HP employee, HP doesn't even use HP computers...kind of tells you something
                        what do they use?
                        capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                          #13
                          Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                          I got one tip for you kitchin. You can send the board to Topcat for recapping since you're in the United States. You can do that if you don't know how to recap. But, you have to pay the price that Topcat wants you to pay. And, that looks like the baddest buldging and "electrolyte coming out to the busted vent" that came out of a few caps on that HP's motherboard. Also, HP also uses Bestec power supplies.
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                            #14
                            Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                            Originally posted by MD Willington
                            I work with an ex HP employee, HP doesn't even use HP computers...kind of tells you something...

                            A lot of the newer eMachines use SOTST from various manufacturers...
                            Hey MD Willington, what systems do they use?
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                              #15
                              Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                              @Pete: Several HP Brio PCs that I am responsible for haveLiteOn PSUs.
                              The great capacitor showdown!

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                                #16
                                Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                                I forgot about Bestec - one of our Pavilions had one - they're OK AFAIK. Lite On makes good stuff, including their own rectifiers. You might find their products in Surfboard (C) cable modems and GI/Mot digital cable set-top boxes.
                                PeteS in CA

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                                  $154! That's a rip off! I can get a socket 939 motherboard for that!
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                                    Oh, hey...

                                    I've obtained a dead eMachines board similar to this one, a Trigem Imperial_GV dated 2003-08-12. Socket 478, 533 MHz bus...

                                    Well, it has no less than 10 Rubycon MBZs and 3 Chemi-Con (forget which...go me) KZGs around the VRM. There are 4 Taicon HIs, and the rest of the board is, surprise, Daewoo. Well, the company that bought them out with the _A_ logo. Looks like a jellybean with legs. All the caps appear good but the board won't post. Not like I'm too concerned, the board has no AGP and I have another Intel 478.

                                    I'll get some pictures if you want. My camera isn't very good.
                                    You know there's something wrong when you open up a PSU and are glad to find Teapos.
                                    Why I don't buy cheap cases!

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Cruddy caps on HP Pavilion 533w (Echo-GL, IMPERIAL_GL_VE)

                                      the bestec psu has a nasty habit of a 10@50 lytic in +5 stby going open.
                                      +5stby often exceeds 12v and kills the mobo.and the replacement you install.and any other board you hook this psu to.(where is that poof smiley when you need it)

                                      Originally posted by Shroomie
                                      Oh, hey...

                                      I've obtained a dead eMachines board similar to this one, a Trigem Imperial_GV dated 2003-08-12. Socket 478, 533 MHz bus...

                                      Well, it has no less than 10 Rubycon MBZs and 3 Chemi-Con (forget which...go me) KZGs around the VRM. There are 4 Taicon HIs, and the rest of the board is, surprise, Daewoo. Well, the company that bought them out with the _A_ logo. Looks like a jellybean with legs. All the caps appear good but the board won't post. Not like I'm too concerned, the board has no AGP and I have another Intel 478.

                                      I'll get some pictures if you want. My camera isn't very good.

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