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**370forlife** · 08-26-2009, 03:08 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Ehhh, you need at least a 40W for motheboard work. A 60W is good for working on a nicer psu with good soldering. Though, my cheap 40W radioshack soldering iron has been fine with cheap psu's, it has a hard time taking apart nicer psu's.

**ratdude747** · 08-26-2009, 05:00 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

a good quality 30w does me fine. mine is a xytronic 258 temp-controlled (phase). tips are cheap (same form factor as hakko tips) and last forever...

**Phaihn** · 08-26-2009, 05:05 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

I talked to a guy at the Source today he recommended a 15 w or a 20 w.

**370forlife** · 08-26-2009, 05:18 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

A 15 or 20W would work, but the problem is that you would have to hold it there a while and you could burn or damage the board or traces. With a 30 or 40W soldering iron you just hold it there for a second and the lead will pull right out.

**Phaihn** · 08-26-2009, 05:21 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

here she is

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**Phaihn** · 08-26-2009, 05:23 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Canadian tire didnt have anything better besides a 35 but it had a hand gripe whitch would impede proper use and a 80 wat that was too much.

**Phaihn** · 08-26-2009, 05:34 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

I might take it back and get a 30w or a 40 from the source

**Phaihn** · 08-26-2009, 06:52 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Ok got a 60 w with Variable wattage.

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**ratdude747** · 08-26-2009, 09:51 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

i donlt like the tip design. dont shop at a tire place. get one like mine:

http://www.assemblyoutfitters.com/images/XY-258.jpg - id embed it but it is high resolution. see the knurled part at the base of the shaft? thats how good irons with replaceable tips are. the kind you have has a tip that will not last and can kill boards when it wears out (killed a nice server board that way). screw at tip= bad quality tip that is not made as a replaceable part (so you have to buy a fresh iron) and poor heat transfer. trust me, the reason my 30w does the job is the tip style. my other 30w had your tip and died quick, has crappy heat transfer, and had no replaceable tips avaiable.

i use xytronic because the local electronics shop carried that and since i know the owner, i shop there. id also reccomed hakko because they make great quality at lower prices. weller make great stuff but they charge out the a** for tips. shop online if no quality is avaiable.

remeber that wattage does not account for heat transfer/ honesty of manufacturer. id return that and look online or shop eleswhere where elecronics is the specialty, not tires.

**weirdlookinguy** · 08-26-2009, 10:17 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

It looks fine.

**Phaihn** · 08-26-2009, 11:54 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

I got that at the Source not canadian tire.
and the tip comes out its just a realy big one lol.

**Gianni** · 08-27-2009, 02:13 AM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Originally posted by Phaihn

I talked to a guy at the Source today he recommended a 15 w or a 20 w.

From my experience I don't agree at all.
If you look at the pic you attached the 25W - 120V reaches only 205ºC.
To solder and de-solder correctly you need 250~350ºC.
The temperature is important to melt solder, power is important when you have a big area to heat.
So a 25W can be enough to desolder a SMT resistor but will be useless to desolder a cap from a MOBO VRM, where large tracks dissipate the heat very quickly.
Another important thing is the tip, they must be suitable for the area you are going to solder because a thin tip can't solder well even if mounted on a 60W solder.

I use Weller WS50, they have the temperature controller and the maximum power is 55W. When I have to solder small components I set the temperature at 300ºC, but when I have to solder component on large tracks I set the temperature between 350 and 400ºC.

About the 60W you got I think it has enough power but it looks not very comfortable for working on electronics board and probably there are not different tip available but with some practice you will be able to do a good job with it.

Ciao
Gianni

**Phaihn** · 08-27-2009, 11:23 AM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Dont know whare around here i am sposes get one of those.

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**Phaihn** · 08-27-2009, 12:03 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Rest of the stuff i got.

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**370forlife** · 08-27-2009, 12:20 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Ehh, its a pointed tip. You really wanted to get a flat tip. You can make it a flat tip if you have a grinder or something, or you can get a new tip.

The wires are 22 gauge, good for low current things like fans or small projects, but for smps work you need at least 18 gauge. Solder suckers are always good, and rosin core solder is good. 60/40 is best.

**Phaihn** · 08-27-2009, 12:33 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

the wire i got for HD motor i wanted to play with ..
i am going to see if there are replacment tips for that iron.

**Phaihn** · 08-27-2009, 12:46 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Did you mean the iron or the solder sucker?

**Krankshaft** · 08-27-2009, 12:57 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Originally posted by 370forlife

Ehh, its a pointed tip. You really wanted to get a flat tip. You can make it a flat tip if you have a grinder or something, or you can get a new tip.

You CAN'T grind the tip down you'll lose the plating.

On a related note I just got my FIRST soldering station a Hakko FX-951 it kicks ass

. Goes circles around my corded unregulated Hakko Dash. I can even hot swap tips they plug in like cartridges heats up to 350 C in 10 secs.

http://hakkousa.com/detail.asp?CID=49&PID=4482&Page=1

Got it for $211 at tequipment.net. Saved $39 bucks off Hakko's direct price.

As for a standard tip I prefer the conical tips for through hole soldering that's just me though.

If you want a starter station based iron go with the Hakko 936.

http://hakkousa.com/detail.asp?CID=4...ID=1250&Page=1

Can be found on fleabay for around 80 bucks shipped. Beware the clones they may look identicial but they use cheap wire wound heating elements while Hakko uses printed heating elements (and no you CAN'T swap the good elements into the cheaper units). I can't remember the other cut corners at the moment.

**Phaihn** · 08-27-2009, 01:02 PM

Re: 25w 120v soldering iron?

Originally posted by Krankshaft

You CAN'T grind the tip down you'll lose the plating.

On a related note I just got my FIRST soldering station a Hakko FX-951 it kicks ass

. Goes circles around my corded unregulated Hakko Dash. I can even hot swap tips they plug in like cartridges heats up to 350 C in 10 secs.

http://hakkousa.com/detail.asp?CID=49&PID=4482&Page=1

Got it for $211 at tequipment.net. Saved $39 bucks off Hakkos direct price.

As for a standard tip I prefer the conical tips for through hole soldering that's just me though.

If you want a starter station based iron go with the Hakko 936.

http://hakkousa.com/detail.asp?CID=4...ID=1250&Page=1

Can be found on fleabay for around 80 bucks shipped. Beware the clones they may look identicial but they use cheap wire wound heating elements while Hakko uses printed heating elements (and no you CAN'T swap the good elements into the cheaper units).

i was thinking of in the 20 to 40 $ range 90 USD is a bit much for me to spend on a soldering iron. Thats more 100 CAD

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