Ratdude's Main Rig V4.1

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's Main Rig V4.1

I could also try paxville CPUs for cheap:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...sl8ma&_sacat=0

$10 a CPU? I may see if i can works some best offers or something, as I don't want to spend a lot but it would be an awesome test (and nobody has to gut a rig over it). But first I'll wait for the system to come in; for all I know it already has such CPUs installed (unlikely)

[Topcat]

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DDR2 ECC is cheap....like the FB memory my X7DWA-N uses. they're pretty much giving it away, as not much on the consumer market hardware supports it. 20-dollar gamble on the paxvilles, yea.....try and let me know!! If it works, that'd be an idea for mine if I could find another 7525 board that also runs them.

I need to update my thread as well. did some totally awesome case modding....I havent had to take an angle grinder to a case in many years!!

[ratdude747]

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DDR2 ECC is cheap....like the FB memory my X7DWA-N uses. they're pretty much giving it away, as not much on the consumer market hardware supports it. 20-dollar gamble on the paxvilles, yea.....try and let me know!! If it works, that'd be an idea for mine if I could find another 7525 board that also runs them.

I need to update my thread as well. did some totally awesome case modding....I havent had to take an angle grinder to a case in many years!!

Uh oh... I've dremeled cases before but an angle grinder, on a case?

(although they are fun to use )

[Topcat]

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Uh oh... I've dremeled cases before but an angle grinder, on a case?

(although they are fun to use )

ye, this one was heavy gauge steel, and I have to whack a pretty good chunk off it.

[c_hegge]

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^
I've used an angle grinder to cut out the IO shield area on a slim Dell Vostro case which I might just build into a HTPC (when I feel like forking out for an SSD and HDD for it).

[ratdude747]

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Crazier Idea: Anybody know if Tulsa Xeons will run on these?

Since (from what I can tell) the SM X6DA_ series is for DDR2 Netburst applications, and the X7DA_ was for the core based ones (they correspond to intel's workstation chipset releases)... and from what I can tell the tumwater chipset was intel's last netburst dual-xeon chipset.

If that be the case, screw paxville, I'll make the jump to tulsa (TC, didn't you once mention having a set of those kicking around?)

[Topcat]

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I have a pair of them.....even the precision 470 wont run them. I think there;s 2 board in the world that will run those.....and one of them is some really strange form factor huge ass quad socket supermicro.

[ratdude747]

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Ok, I won't go there then.

[Topcat]

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http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...8501/X6QT8.cfm

That will support tulsa processors.....the only one I've seen. I think there's some obscure Tyan that does as well, but I could not locate it.

[ratdude747]

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http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...8501/X6QT8.cfm

That will support tulsa processors.....the only one I've seen. I think there's some obscure Tyan that does as well, but I could not locate it.

Figures. Looks like my K8WE is still the better platform (but both systems will be nice).

[ratdude747]

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Nope, it appears Supermicro made X6DA3's and other models for paxville. The boards look the same though, so it's possible that I did get one. I won't know until I have the system in front of me.

[ratdude747]

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Took a closer look, it's an X6DAE-G2 (as it had 2 LANs as per the seller's description). No Paxville support. Bummer!

(oddly they did make an SLI compatible version too... but it used DDR1 and was the crappy PCIe 8x version of SLI, not the full 16x SLI my K8WE has).

edit- here's one that will do paxville, for not too much $$: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-X...item2596c8cf84

(even after shipping from germany, that's not bad at all)

[ratdude747]

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It gets weirder... according to the manual, the G2 models in addition to two LANs also are the only ones with DDR2... the G's do use DDR1. Damn Supermicro made this confusing... like mid 90's Mac models...

edit- looks like 2 LANs in the grainy picture, look by the parallel port. 1 would be shorter.

[Topcat]

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I havent read the manuals, but different RAM on the same basic board & chipset seems a wee bit erroneous. Memory type is a factor determined by what the chipset supports rather than a simple board revision. Makes zero sense.

that one in Germany....tempting...

[ratdude747]

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I havent read the manuals, but different RAM on the same basic board & chipset seems a wee bit erroneous. Memory type is a factor determined by what the chipset supports rather than a simple board revision. Makes zero sense.

that one in Germany....tempting...

The tumwater chipset supports both, and SM made boards with the chipset both ways.

[Topcat]

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The tumwater chipset supports both, and SM made boards with the chipset both ways.

Interesting for sure.....but quite bizarre....

[ratdude747]

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Interesting for sure.....but quite bizarre....

nope, this is actually pretty common. Later C2D chipsets were like this (such as in my Asus x83v), as they could do both DDR2 and DDR3 (mine did DDR2). Some desktop boards for the budget market (ECS and ASROCK) actually had both on board, as an upgrade path (the latter did the same with AGP and PCIe 16x).

[Topcat]

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I've never seen it....and I've seena lot of boards over the last 12 years....but I have seen old socket7 boards with SIMM and DIMM slots on the same board, so certainly not impossible.

[shovenose]

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I've seen boards that have DDR and DDR2, and also AGP and PCI-Express. They've all been broken/dead though.

[Topcat]

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Now that I think about it, I have seen some boards with both DDR1 and DDR2 slots on it.....had to really think back on that....but yea. There weren't a lot of them.

That german one is no longer for sale.... That is the same model I mentioned in another thread last week, only us based one, the bozo wanted $599 for it. I emailed him, and he never responded.