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Old 06-24-2018, 08:03 PM   #61
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Well, so far so good.... /s
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:22 PM   #63
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Ive been running Prime95 and S&M for the past hour... Its acting fine. Memtest is good.
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:23 PM   #64
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Ive been running Prime95 and S&M for the past hour... Its acting fine. Memtest is good.
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:15 PM   #65
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Looks like Barracuda 7200.7s are shit. In fact, the bad one I got from Wal-Mart on May 14, 2005, was most likely a 7200.7, I had weird squeaking when seeking a lot, and multiple SMART checkers were predicting an early HDD failure!

Barracuda 7200.9=I dunno...

Barracuda 7200.11= It's possible that no other Barracuda gen got a worse reputation than the 7200.11! They reportedly have major firmware issues and possibly major hardware issues as well!

The Barracuda 7200.12s and what appear to be related, seem to be the best later Seagates (besides the Barracuda 7200.10s, where many of them are also made in Thailand.)

On June 2, 2005, at Staples, IIRC, got the Maxtor 6Y060P0, (Singapore, IIRC) which is a 60 GB (7,200 RPM) DiamondMax 9 series, IIRC and it lasted a long time!

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Old 06-25-2018, 06:54 PM   #66
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Well, so far so good.... /s
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Ah well, it would have been a waste of time anyways. No matter what many softwares claim, I don't think you can properly ever fix any physical damage inside an HDD with some mouse clicks. At best, you can just map around bad sectors and hope the HDD doesn't hit that area, then go offline.

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haven't read the thread but i think spinny disks will save data better than ssd . or does a head crash wreck the disks ? .
Head "crash" rarely does physical damage to the disk. Most of the time, the heads just get out of alignment or damaged to the point where they can't read anything on the disk - that is, unless the magnetic coating on the disks is marginal and the HDD starts getting bad sectors due to that.

But all in all, I too think that regular spinners are safer for data than SSD. With SSDs, your data is spread across many different memory chips, and when one fails, pretty much all of your data is gone. Think of it as a RAID 0 array consisting of many many discs. On that note, multi-platter HDDs also function internally like a RAID 0 array. So the safest bet is usually a single-platter, single-head HDD with a lower capacity. But who wants to use a 40-80 GB wonder from 10+ years ago?
... well, okay - I do. But that's only on computers I use for work (i.e. typing, storing documents and a few personal pictures). With my gaming/multimedia-oriented PCs, I don't care - I just back up start over when things go bad.

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Looks like Barracuda 7200.7s are shit. In fact, the bad one I got from Wal-Mart on May 14, 2005, was most likely a 7200.7, I had weird squeaking when seeking a lot, and multiple SMART checkers were predicting an early HDD failure!
U MAD?

7200.7 is pretty damn reliable. I have seen very few truly failed ones (i.e. not detecting or clicking). Yes, a lot of them will accumulate bad sectors over time (some more than others). But despite that, they continue to work fine for many years. On that note, some of the WD's from the same time period didn't fare any better. Moreover, from what I've seen, WDs from that time tend to stop working at random on a cold boot - no warning signs whatsoever. With the Seagate 7200.7 and 7200.9, you usually get a lot of early warnings, like squealing/squeaking and BSODs, to name a few.

In any case, though, both WD and Seagate were pretty reliable back then. Just because you got a bad turd from Walmart shouldn't drive you to conclusions about all models from a particular manufacturer. I mean, anything you get from Walmart shouldn't surprise you if it fails.

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Old 06-29-2018, 02:15 PM   #67
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Just posting an update. Where proprietary software failed, FLOSS succeeded. I ran badblocks on it in destructive mode and the drive came good.
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There you go.
So how many reallocated sectors does it have now? Don't tell me none!

Also, I forgot to mention, but since you have a WD drive there - clean the PCB contacts that go to the heads / actuator, as they regularly oxidize on WD drives.
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^ You would think at only 41 hours they wouldn't be corroded. And, sadly, they aren't...

811 sectors... Over 56 events... Something tells me they didn't mark bad sectors at the factory.
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Well, with WD, I always check, even if it's a low-hours new drive. It all depends how it's been stored. If it's an OEM drive, ideally it wasn't shipped in bulk packaging without a seal or left by whatever OEM used it to sit too long in a damp warehouse before getting used.

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811 sectors... Over 56 events... Something tells me they didn't mark bad sectors at the factory.
Yeah, that's quite a lot. WD should have disabled whatever platter(s) were defective and the HDD sold as a lower capacity one.
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Well, with WD, I always check, even if it's a low-hours new drive. It all depends how it's been stored. If it's an OEM drive, ideally it wasn't shipped in bulk packaging without a seal or left by whatever OEM used it to sit too long in a damp warehouse before getting used.


Yeah, that's quite a lot. WD should have disabled whatever platter(s) were defective and the HDD sold as a lower capacity one.
The good news is that it's one of the mirror drives in my nested RAID 10 array. The other 4tb mirror "party" being two 2tb drives in RAID 0, so actual size is a little less than 3.9Tb overall.

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