more win10 stuff

[stj]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07...prise_edition/

[kaboom]

Re: more win10 stuff

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

M$: "Look what we've gotten away with! Why stop there?"

[goontron]

Re: more win10 stuff

yeah, i made note of that with my win10 VṀ.

[diif]

Re: more win10 stuff

It's not even RTM and it has caused issues.
http://betanews.com/2015/07/26/windo...your-computer/

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

It's not even RTM and it has caused issues.
http://betanews.com/2015/07/26/windo...your-computer/

i loved this coment:

Their probably IS a simple registry hack to disable these updates. The question is...why would Microsoft be denying users security updates just because they don't update everything else? I thought the mandatory updates were all about security. Or maybe its all about keeping Microsoft's spyware one step ahead of your anti-spyware.

[Topcat]

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There are people that actually use this horrendous compilation of alleged "code"?

[Agent24]

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There are people that actually use this horrendous compilation of alleged "code"?

Unfortunately in some cases you have to.

[Topcat]

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Unfortunately in some cases you have to.

news to me.......

[stj]

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"have" to?
why exactly?
if a company tells an admin/tech they "have" to, the tech should make it very clear that they as the "expert" are recomending against it and will not be responsible for any failures, losses or downtime caused by the upgrade.

when i have worked for others, i have made it very clear that i am the expert and if they go against my advice then i'm not taking resonsibility for it.

[goontron]

Re: more win10 stuff

news to me.......

^ more UEFI other OS lockout BS.

i need to make popcorn on the 29th. i think we will see a very big shitstorm. Though, i hope the shitstorm can hold off about half a month. Im already going to hear people whining about this at DEF CON, i dont need to hear more!

[Agent24]

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news to me.......

There are several programs and many games I run that work properly only in Windows.

I would ditch Windows if these programs all worked in Linux, but they don't, so I can't.

[Topcat]

Re: more win10 stuff

There are several programs and many games I run that work properly only in Windows.

I would ditch Windows if these programs all worked in Linux, but they don't, so I can't.

So run win7, vista, or even XP.....

[stj]

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actually that is about to change.
DirectX-11 is going to be in Wine soon.

[Agent24]

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So run win7, vista, or even XP.....

I do. I dual-boot and run Win 7 as my main Windows OS, Linux for the everyday stuff that I can, and have some other machines with XP and older for legacy things that I don't let on the Internet anymore.

The big problem for me will come when Windows 7 is unsupported and full of unpatched holes, because it's the last version of Windows that makes any sense to me. Windows 8 is a few good steps over the edge into stupidity and Windows 10 is even worse. I could probably grudgingly accept Windows 8 with a boatload of 3rd party modifications to make it work more like XP, but after that? Ugh.

I'll likely need an up-to-date Windows in the future for everything that doesn't work in Wine, and which can have an Internet connection without being more vulnerable than usual.

actually that is about to change.
DirectX-11 is going to be in Wine soon.

Wine is OK in some cases but still needs work... would be great if iTunes worked for example - I need that to manage my iPod (A gift, I would never have bought one myself) as Linux does not support it natively and 3rd party applications like MediaMonkey are too buggy (constantly trashes all the album art and doesn't work in Wine either, anyway)

DirectX 11 might be nice to have in Wine, but there are so many older games that still don't work right. Aquanox for example. Everything works except the mouse cursor does not stay centered on the screen, so eventually you end up at the edge of the screen and the game stops responding to mouse input. Useless for something that is in somewhat of an FPS style.

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[stj]

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i think itunes can be replaced by Clementine.
http://www.clementine-player.org/

about that mouse thing,
open a terminal and type "winecfg" and set the option to trap the mouse in the window.

[Agent24]

Re: more win10 stuff

I do use Clementine already, in both Linux and Windows, and love it, but unfortunately it does not support the later models like mine fully (reading works, but not writing).

I think it is a limitation of the GNU(?) iPod\iPhone access library rather than any specific program, as the same behaviour is present on all iPod-capable programs in Linux.
I will look into that mouse option though, thanks.

Seems I have terribly derailed this thread!...

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07..._whack_a_mole/

[stj]

Re: more win10 stuff

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29535...and-8-pcs.html

[lti]

Re: more win10 stuff

Windows 10 keeps looking worse to me every day.

[Uranium-235]

Re: more win10 stuff

this is why I was like to my customers "wait about 6 months"